[vorbis] TAG Standard - ENSEMBLE/PERFORMER tags

Glenn Maynard g_ogg at zewt.org
Fri Jan 4 00:59:55 PST 2002



On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 02:04:21AM +0200, Tuomo Latto wrote:
> Not. I'd be pretty happy if people would stop using the word translate here.
> (And besides country codes and languages do not really correlate that well.)

(I've said this a couple times since this post, but since people might
read messages in any order, I'll repeat it.)  I'm not looking for
translations in the simple tags.  I do believe that a metadata stream
should be capable of providing translations for any tag, but it's not
appropriate for the simple tags.

> Translations should not be included - _transliterations_ however are a 
> completely
> different thing. That is probably what is needed and that could be achieved 
> by
> overloading (as in Java) the title tag.
> A standard should state something like this:
> "If the tag value is not written in roman alphabet, an additional tag 
> contaning the
> transliteration written in english set of alphabet should be placed as the 
> last one."

I don't think the order of the tags should matter at all; it's
reasonable for an editor to read them in and sort them, for example.

> I don't know is how already overloaded tags (e.g. performer/artist, 
> whatever) should be handled. Any ideas?

I think this is enough of a problem to not bother with it at all in the
tags.

It's not a problem with a decent data format; ie.
<tag type="title"><data lang="ja">夢</data>
                  <data lang="ja" type="phonetic">ゆめ</data>
                  <data lang="ja" type="transliteration" trans="roman">yume</data>
                  <data lang="en" type="translation">Dream</data>
</tag>

Obviously, anything remotely resembling this would be metadata, not
tags.  I show this also to show how I envision metadata handling this.
Players don't need to know about the other types if they don't need it;
they could just look for the the native tag (the one lacking "type".)


-- 
Glenn Maynard

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