[vorbis] TAG Standard - ENSEMBLE/PERFORMER tags

Beni Cherniavksy cben at techunix.technion.ac.il
Mon Jan 7 05:38:04 PST 2002



On 2002-01-04, Glenn Maynard wrote:

> I don't think the order of the tags should matter at all; it's
> reasonable for an editor to read them in and sort them, for example.
>
It's been said several times by Supreme Authorities that the order is
insignificant among tags of different names but significant among tags of
the same name.  In other words, tags form an associative mapping from tag
names to ordered lists of values.

It is better than having no order would be IMHO; people want sometimes to
express order, for example to put the most prominent performer first.  If
tags would represent sets of values, they would be forced to revert to
putting many values in one, when order is important.

No agreed meaning of order has been defined, but I think that it's natural
to expect the first value to be the most important.

Another idea is to say "players should render the first value they are
able to render (because they don't have all fonts)" and place
transliterations of values after the original values.

BTW, there is use even for multiple TITLEs!  I have perfomances of a song
that has 3 names by which it's recognized, and a bunch of songs with a two
names.  This typically happens when the lyricist/poet gives a certain
title but the people rename it to something more obvious to them (usually
the first line :).  Also I have translations of hebrew songs into english
and french.  Some translate the words exactly, some quite freely and some
replace the words with completle unrelated ones.  In the first case I
would just like to put the english/french translations of the hebrew title
(e.g. if I give this file to somebody not speaking hebrew); in the second
and especially the third, the english/french title is very important; in
the third case I might even want to add a hebrew translation of the new
title (especially since it's in french which I don't speak ;-).


-- 
Beni Cherniavsky <cben at tx.technion.ac.il>
                 (also scben at t2 in Technion)

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