No, I don't think so. Was: [vorbis] Vorbis 1.0 binary - Beta4 still the best?

[Monty]

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:37:41AM +0200, Zvezdan Dimitrijevic wrote:
> >> One must never use graphs to look for artifacts.  Graphs are useful
> >> only as a means of visually explaining what your ears tell you.  What
> >> you've pictured above isn't an artifact unless you can hear it.  
> 
> I knew that you will incorrectly interpret my intention when I sent
> these graphs. I was wrong because I didn't say that I came to my
> conclusion after extensible listening test first. 

I understand that you're listening first and graphing later.  What we
haven't yet established is that what you're hearing is a phase
difference.  Using a graph to illustrate that rc3/1.0 discards phase
information is not conclusive proof.

I'm not dismissing your claims.  I'm attempting to be rigorously
methodical. Even should I decide that your preferences are a
statistical outlier that I can't easily accomodate, I still with to
correctly understand what it is you really hear.

Monty

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