[vorbis] Bitrate stripping?

[John Morton]

On Friday 02 January 2004 13:53, Daniel Schregenberger wrote:
>  On Fre, 2004-01-02 at 13:25, John Morton wrote:
>  > Bit peeling is all about helping you out if you have limited storage,
>  > bandwidth and cycles.
>  [...]
>  > The problem is that the amount of storage, bandwidth and cycles you can
>  > buy for a dollar is always increasing, and shows no sign of letting up
>  > in the near future.
>  [...]
>  > Basically, two years ago bit peeling would have been a killer app -
>  > potentially enough of  a feature to override the whole 'free does not
>  > compute' problem that vorbis has with the big corporate customers. Right
>  > now it would be one of a number of nice features vorbis has, along with
>  > comments that don't suck, easy replaygain support, better quality to
>  > size than most of the non-AAC competition. It might even be that way in
>  > a year, but two years from now? I think encoder optimizations, monster
>  > portables and IceShare will make it irrelevant for most people.
>
>  You're right. I haven't thought about this, but it makes perfect sense.
>
>  There's a little point I want to mention: flash players. They are
>  getting big business. Included into mobile phones and other gadgets with
>  space limits. (Would be much more usefull than these cameras with their
>  lousy quality)
>  There's even a rumour of Apple releasing an "iPod for the masses" say a
>  "very cheap" one. IIRC it was said to be about a 100$, storing not onto
>  a harddrive but onto flash memory.

Players that don't support vorbis, and are never likely to do so for technical 
(ie not enough cycles)  reasons, or commercial reasons (Apple is backing 
another horse), don't really enter into the discussion at this point. Better 
to wait and see see if the 'iPod for the masses' really sells, or if the 
market would rather have space for everything or no player at all (or a 
player than reads dvds). 

>  Imagine all ringing tones being vorbis, mobile phones streaming vorbis
>  radios instead of including separate FM tuners etc. etc. Ok, I admit,
>  it's not really realistic, but it would be nice! :)

I think cellphone/media player convergence will really happen when the phones 
finally include a 20 gig drive and good playlist software. 

John

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