[vorbis] Vorbis Comment question

[Beni Cherniavsky]

On 2003-03-13, Craig Dickson wrote:

> Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
>
> > The "recommendations" are not regulations - they are agreements.
>
> Agreements between Jonathan Walther and himself, mostly.

And me too :-).  That's two (there are a lot more, of course).

> The reactor-core paper is his, and it reflects what he wanted and
> what other people managed to convince him to add, remove, or change.
> Even to call it a set of "agreements" is an overstatement; the
> process by which these "agreements" were reached was so grossly
> biased in Jonathan's favor that it's an insult to the very concept
> of consensus to call them "agreements" at all.  It's his paper, so
> he had total control over it and total freedom to do as he pleased;
> there was no notion of voting on disputed issues, nor was majority
> or consensus approval even a part of Jonathan's goals as far as I
> could tell.
>
Indeed, many people complained about his style or running it.  Yet
nobody forked it and published a different paper, nor made any
sensible effort to run something like this in a better way, as they
understand it.  Why?  Probably it's not nearly an ideal concensus but
it's the best that was achieved.  Come and improve.

> > I don't see how a link from the official site would hurt anybody.
>
> I agree with Tilo Renz: linking from xiph.org/vorbis.org to the
> reactor-core paper would legitimize the latter far too much.
>
IMHO, it should link to "all availiable suggestions for linking".
Oops, there is only one, beside the Xiph one.  Which wasn't run by
majority/voting either, BTW.


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Beni Cherniavsky <cben at tx.technion.ac.il>
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