[vorbis] Vorbis Comment question

[Segher Boessenkool]

David K. Gasaway wrote:
> On 5 Mar 2003 at 4:33, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> 
>>True.  And it has been useful, and will be useful, until we get
>>a real metadata format.  
> 
> Do you truly feel there is a need for another format?

Yes.

 > Tags currently
> work quite well for me.  There must not be a huge demand for a "real" 
> metadata format, or else there would be one by now, I think.

The real reason is probably that it is a really hard problem.

 > I might
> have started on one long ago, but I just don't see the motivation.  
> Anyone care to clue me in? :)
> 
> What are the limitations of the tag system that make it inappropriate 
> as a metadata format?  What extra features would a new format provide?  

More structure.  More data-types.  Much more formalism.
Metadata on the metadata.

> Vorbis comments were originally purposed for a "quick note" role.  

Yes.

> However, if practice shows they are also useful in a general metadata 
> role, then we've achieved something for nothing.  

No.

> Not that I suggest that comments should be encrusted with rules for 
> parsing's sake.

Exactly.

 > This thread started as a GEUSTARTIST suggestion, which
> is not an issue of parsability, nor is it oustide the bounds of the 
> standard.

Sure not.  As a quick note, it's fine.  For any other use,
it's not.

Carsten did a fine job summarizing the problem in this week's
Ogg Traffic.

<p>Segher

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