[vorbis] Hello! New Member seeks advice

Nicola Larosa nico at tekNico.net
Tue Jun 17 22:51:32 PDT 2003



> I have one file ready for immediate posting. It is approximately 40 
> minutes in length. Any assistance or reasonable recommendations would be
> greatly appreciated.
> ...
> The common wav. format being used to transfer audio over the web is not
> really practical time wise or bandwith wise for the average user of which
> I am one. 30 to 40 minutes to upload or download a 5 min wav. files seems
> unreasonable and prohibitive.
> ...
> In other words, there must be a better way. Is Vorbis OGG it?

It may be, but definitely the best for spoken audio is Speex:

http://www.speex.org/

which recently joined the Ogg family.

<p>Also, please review the mailing list guiedelines that Monty posted the other 
day, I enclose those here for your convenience (you were able to break two 
rules out of three, not bad ;^) ).

 > Hello folks,
 >
 > A couple people are visibly not grokking some of the finer points of
 > proper mailing list use, mostly using 'reply' instead of 'new
 > message'.  Thus it's time for... the FAQ.  In this case FAQ ==
 > Frequently Answered Questions.  We answer 'em before you ask 'em.
 > They're not rules, they're just the way it works.
 >
 > 1) When posting to the list, don't just ignore subject lines, or reply
 >    to messages that have nothing to do with what you're about to say.
 >    Sophisticated mail readers (like the ones many of the core
 >    developers use) 'thread' conversations, grouping messages by
 >    replies.  Quite a few of us have our mail readers set up to totally
 >    ignore threads we've previously marked as uninteresting.  Landing
 >    an unrelated message in the middle of a totally different
 >    conversation which many of the core folk have marked as
 >    'uninteresting' will just get you ignored.  We'll never see your
 >    mail.  We get hundereds of messages a day, and list mail simply has
 >    to take a low priority through batch handling like that.
 >
 >    BTW, just editing the subject line is not enough to keep your
 >    message out of a thread if you hit 'Reply'.  A seperate header is
 >    embedded in the message called 'In-Reply-To'.  At a guess, the
 >    pretty graphical mail readers don't let you edit it, or even tell
 >    you that it's there.  If you want to start a new subject or
 >    conversation, hit 'New Message' please.  Not 'Reply'.
 >
 > 2) Do not send subscribe/unsubscribe messages to the list; they'll be
 >    filtered and ignored by the mail list system and no one will ever
 >    see them.  Follow the instructions listed in the footer of every
 >    message.  Eg, to unsubscribe, send a message with the single word
 >    'unsubscribe' in the body to <listname>-request at xiph.org.  If you
 >    have trouble, a polite request to postmaster at xiph.org will get
 >    your request to a human.
 >
 > 3) The list software does not allow email in HTML format; it is
 >    intentionally configured to drop all HTML formatted software on the
 >    ground with no error and no warning.  The primary motivation for
 >    this is to block mailspam; this trick alone filters 99% of the
 >    mailspam that would otherwise flood the lists.
 >
 >    Outlook and Exchange, by default, tend to be configured to send
 >    everything in marked up, HTML-like format.  This markup is useless
 >    to most of us, takes up space, confuses the web archiving software
 >    and generally does nobody any good.  Oh... and it will cause your
 >    mail to get dropped; if you're confused why your posts aren't
 >    showing up on the list, this is probably the reason.  Please turn
 >    this formatting 'feature' off when posting to xiph.org lists.
 >
 > That's all I can think of for now.  Happy posting.
 >
 > Monty

<p>
-- 
"I've always said that humans shouldn't be forced to read/write XML
and that goes for programmers, too. Writing a programming language
in XML format [XSLT] seems like the perversion of a sadist to me."
   David Abrahams

Nicola Larosa - nico at tekNico.net

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