[vorbis] Flaming

[Graham Mitchell]

>> Most of the folks on the list don't care about such things...
>
> Of the people that posted, more people cared than didn't care.

Certainly.  Such is the nature of the beast.

> I don't think you can honestly speak for the silent majority.

You are correct.  I am just making an assumption about those who didn't 
participate in the discussion based on my own experience.  Perhaps I'm 
wrong, and perhaps I'm not.

> Segher has had almost two years to cool down. None of my recent posts
> have contained ad hominem attacks.  The Segher/MusicBrainz connection is
> a valid one, based on 2 years of observing his posts on this mailing
> list, and on IRC.

Personally, I would consider this to be an attack.  From my perspective, 
you're accusing him of opposing something not for technical reasons, but 
because he has a hidden personal agenda.  And further, I think it implies 
that he might be "trumping up" technical arguments to protect this personal 
agenda.

His reply makes it clear that he considers such an allegation to be 
preposterous.

> Segher is not the only one who is actively opposed to the idea of
> an Ogg Tag Standard; but he is the only one on the Ogg core team.

Are you sure this is the case?

> He may be correct that he didn't veto the Ogg Tag Recommendations being
> linked from the Vorbis site, in which case I owe him an apology.  Sorry
> Segher.  That then raises uncomfortable questions about Emmett Plant,
> the one who originally told me Segher exercised a veto.

...speaking of personal attacks!

I think if you want the Ogg Tag Recommendations linked from vorbis.com, then 
you should submit a bug report.  Go to bugs.xiph.org, choose a product of 
"website", a severity of "enhancement", and make your case.  If the bug is 
rejected, then you'll have your answer.


-- 
Graham Mitchell - computer science teacher, Leander High School
"There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion
that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a
number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of
guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing
circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is not
supported by statute or common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have
any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or
turned back."
	-- Robert Heinlein, "Life-Line"

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