[vorbis] ArtistHost

[Lorenzo Prince]

Which is exactly why Ogg Vorbis is much better all around.  Nobody has to worry
about $$$$.  Not the developers.  Not the hardware manufacturers.  Not the end
user.  Just a good all around alternative to anything else that costs someone
$$$$.
Lorenzo

<p>> [quote]WMA is "mainstream" becauses microsoft can say "heres $$$$$$, add
> > support for WMA"
> > even thou ogg vorbris is more popular and better. [/quote]
>
> Guess who pay for "heres $$$$$$  :-(    :very angry:    >.<
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris" <cl at enposte.net>
> To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] ArtistHost
>
>
> > WMA is "mainstream" becauses microsoft can say "heres $$$$$$, add
> > support for WMA"
> > even thou ogg vorbris is more popular and better.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Lorenzo Prince wrote:
> >
> > >I don't understand why that company considers Windows Media to be a main
> > >format, or more popular than Ogg Vorbis.  The only place I have ever seen
> > >more Windows Media than Ogg Vorbis is on web sites that do streaming.  Most
> > >files that are extracted from CD's or encoded from other formats are
usually
> > >in mp3.  Quite a few are in Ogg Vorbis.  The rest, which are very few, are
> > >in WMA format.  I know I don't store my CD's in WMA format.  So how can
they
> > >even put Windows Media on the same plain with mp3 or Ogg Vorbis?
> > >Also, I guess it is, as you said, a "which came first?  The chicken or the
> > >Ogg" situation.  It's a very strange business phenomenon.
> > >(We thePeople):  Could you please support what we like in your product?
> > >(Company): We won't support it until it's popular.
> > >(We the People): When you support our format it will become popular.
> > >(Company): Sorry, but we won't support it until it's popular.
> > >What they don't realize is that Ogg Vorbis is already quite popular.  But
> > >it's companies like that that keep it from being more popular than it
> > >already is.  Ogg Vorbis isn't a popular format in the hardware market
> > >because hardware manufacturers don't currently support it.  Hardware
> > >manufacturers don't currently support Ogg Vorbis because it isn't popular
in
> > >the hardware market.  This is a bad business practice, and will eventually
> > >lead to the company going bankrupt, or at least losing a lot of business.
> > >Maybe some of us can help by making a hardware player available that
> > >supports Ogg Vorbis.  Not sure, and it may be difficult to do, but it's
just
> > >a thought.  Otherwise, we can all just buy the first or best player to
> > >support Ogg Vorbis, and tell everyone else to buy it too.  Let the first
> > >company to support Ogg Vorbis in their hardware get all the business.  and
> > >then maybe the other companies will finally see the light and turn to the
> > >fish.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "O Si Yo" <axionman2k2 at yahoo.com>
> > >To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:15 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [vorbis] ArtistHost
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>the old 'which came first, the chicken or the ogg'
> > >>syndrome.
> > >>
> > >>chickens do not do .ogg
> > >>
> > >>pawk pawk pawk pawk
> > >>
> > >>I wrote the company making a new non-CD portable
> > >>player, that uses a 15GB drive to store sound files.
> > >>Adding support for the .ogg codec would seem trivial
> > >>for such a computer based player.
> > >>
> > >>Their customer service rep indicated interest:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>[name] check this out, what do you think. I get
> > >>>inquiries about this all the
> > >>>time...........Luis
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>But the tech replied:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>We here at e.digital have hear alot about .ogg
> > >>>format, but tell it becomes a
> > >>>main format (Like mp3 or WMA) it will be considered
> > >>>and looked into.
> > >>>[name]
> > >>>e.digital Test Supervisor.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>I wrote back to him to encourage such consideration.
> > >>He curtly replied:
> > >>
> > >>"When Ogg becomes more of a main format like (Mp3 and
> > >>wma) there will be more consideration for that format,
> > >>but tell then it will not."  The end.  Looks like some
> > >>other company with vision will reap the benefits of
> > >>going with .ogg first.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- Martin Blackwell <djdij at handbags.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>heres a quote from an email about this hosting
> > >>>company who requested that their site be listed in
> > >>>the links section of the website i run for a band on
> > >>>Homstead. Both me and the band said no. mostly cause
> > >>>theres no point, and the guy i got an email from
> > >>>seemed to be rude.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>***
> > >>
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