[vorbis] ArtistHost

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[quote]WMA is "mainstream" becauses microsoft can say "heres $$$$$$, add 
> support for WMA"
> even thou ogg vorbris is more popular and better. [/quote]

Guess who pay for "heres $$$$$$  :-(    :very angry:    >.<     

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris" <cl at enposte.net>
To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] ArtistHost

<p>> WMA is "mainstream" becauses microsoft can say "heres $$$$$$, add 
> support for WMA"
> even thou ogg vorbris is more popular and better.
> 
> Chris
> 
> Lorenzo Prince wrote:
> 
> >I don't understand why that company considers Windows Media to be a main
> >format, or more popular than Ogg Vorbis.  The only place I have ever seen
> >more Windows Media than Ogg Vorbis is on web sites that do streaming.  Most
> >files that are extracted from CD's or encoded from other formats are usually
> >in mp3.  Quite a few are in Ogg Vorbis.  The rest, which are very few, are
> >in WMA format.  I know I don't store my CD's in WMA format.  So how can they
> >even put Windows Media on the same plain with mp3 or Ogg Vorbis?
> >Also, I guess it is, as you said, a "which came first?  The chicken or the
> >Ogg" situation.  It's a very strange business phenomenon.
> >(We thePeople):  Could you please support what we like in your product?
> >(Company): We won't support it until it's popular.
> >(We the People): When you support our format it will become popular.
> >(Company): Sorry, but we won't support it until it's popular.
> >What they don't realize is that Ogg Vorbis is already quite popular.  But
> >it's companies like that that keep it from being more popular than it
> >already is.  Ogg Vorbis isn't a popular format in the hardware market
> >because hardware manufacturers don't currently support it.  Hardware
> >manufacturers don't currently support Ogg Vorbis because it isn't popular in
> >the hardware market.  This is a bad business practice, and will eventually
> >lead to the company going bankrupt, or at least losing a lot of business.
> >Maybe some of us can help by making a hardware player available that
> >supports Ogg Vorbis.  Not sure, and it may be difficult to do, but it's just
> >a thought.  Otherwise, we can all just buy the first or best player to
> >support Ogg Vorbis, and tell everyone else to buy it too.  Let the first
> >company to support Ogg Vorbis in their hardware get all the business.  and
> >then maybe the other companies will finally see the light and turn to the
> >fish.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "O Si Yo" <axionman2k2 at yahoo.com>
> >To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: [vorbis] ArtistHost
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>the old 'which came first, the chicken or the ogg'
> >>syndrome.
> >>
> >>chickens do not do .ogg
> >>
> >>pawk pawk pawk pawk
> >>
> >>I wrote the company making a new non-CD portable
> >>player, that uses a 15GB drive to store sound files.
> >>Adding support for the .ogg codec would seem trivial
> >>for such a computer based player.
> >>
> >>Their customer service rep indicated interest:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>[name] check this out, what do you think. I get
> >>>inquiries about this all the
> >>>time...........Luis
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>But the tech replied:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>We here at e.digital have hear alot about .ogg
> >>>format, but tell it becomes a
> >>>main format (Like mp3 or WMA) it will be considered
> >>>and looked into.
> >>>[name]
> >>>e.digital Test Supervisor.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>I wrote back to him to encourage such consideration.
> >>He curtly replied:
> >>
> >>"When Ogg becomes more of a main format like (Mp3 and
> >>wma) there will be more consideration for that format,
> >>but tell then it will not."  The end.  Looks like some
> >>other company with vision will reap the benefits of
> >>going with .ogg first.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--- Martin Blackwell <djdij at handbags.freeserve.co.uk>
> >>wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>heres a quote from an email about this hosting
> >>>company who requested that their site be listed in
> >>>the links section of the website i run for a band on
> >>>Homstead. Both me and the band said no. mostly cause
> >>>theres no point, and the guy i got an email from
> >>>seemed to be rude.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>***
> >>
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