[vorbis] ArtistHost

[Chris]

WMA is "mainstream" becauses microsoft can say "heres $$$$$$, add 
support for WMA"
even thou ogg vorbris is more popular and better.

Chris

Lorenzo Prince wrote:

>I don't understand why that company considers Windows Media to be a main
>format, or more popular than Ogg Vorbis.  The only place I have ever seen
>more Windows Media than Ogg Vorbis is on web sites that do streaming.  Most
>files that are extracted from CD's or encoded from other formats are usually
>in mp3.  Quite a few are in Ogg Vorbis.  The rest, which are very few, are
>in WMA format.  I know I don't store my CD's in WMA format.  So how can they
>even put Windows Media on the same plain with mp3 or Ogg Vorbis?
>Also, I guess it is, as you said, a "which came first?  The chicken or the
>Ogg" situation.  It's a very strange business phenomenon.
>(We thePeople):  Could you please support what we like in your product?
>(Company): We won't support it until it's popular.
>(We the People): When you support our format it will become popular.
>(Company): Sorry, but we won't support it until it's popular.
>What they don't realize is that Ogg Vorbis is already quite popular.  But
>it's companies like that that keep it from being more popular than it
>already is.  Ogg Vorbis isn't a popular format in the hardware market
>because hardware manufacturers don't currently support it.  Hardware
>manufacturers don't currently support Ogg Vorbis because it isn't popular in
>the hardware market.  This is a bad business practice, and will eventually
>lead to the company going bankrupt, or at least losing a lot of business.
>Maybe some of us can help by making a hardware player available that
>supports Ogg Vorbis.  Not sure, and it may be difficult to do, but it's just
>a thought.  Otherwise, we can all just buy the first or best player to
>support Ogg Vorbis, and tell everyone else to buy it too.  Let the first
>company to support Ogg Vorbis in their hardware get all the business.  and
>then maybe the other companies will finally see the light and turn to the
>fish.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "O Si Yo" <axionman2k2 at yahoo.com>
>To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
>Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [vorbis] ArtistHost
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>>the old 'which came first, the chicken or the ogg'
>>syndrome.
>>
>>chickens do not do .ogg
>>
>>pawk pawk pawk pawk
>>
>>I wrote the company making a new non-CD portable
>>player, that uses a 15GB drive to store sound files.
>>Adding support for the .ogg codec would seem trivial
>>for such a computer based player.
>>
>>Their customer service rep indicated interest:
>>
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>>
>>>[name] check this out, what do you think. I get
>>>inquiries about this all the
>>>time...........Luis
>>>      
>>>
>>But the tech replied:
>>
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>>>We here at e.digital have hear alot about .ogg
>>>format, but tell it becomes a
>>>main format (Like mp3 or WMA) it will be considered
>>>and looked into.
>>>[name]
>>>e.digital Test Supervisor.
>>>      
>>>
>>I wrote back to him to encourage such consideration.
>>He curtly replied:
>>
>>"When Ogg becomes more of a main format like (Mp3 and
>>wma) there will be more consideration for that format,
>>but tell then it will not."  The end.  Looks like some
>>other company with vision will reap the benefits of
>>going with .ogg first.
>>
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>>--- Martin Blackwell <djdij at handbags.freeserve.co.uk>
>>wrote:
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>>>heres a quote from an email about this hosting
>>>company who requested that their site be listed in
>>>the links section of the website i run for a band on
>>>Homstead. Both me and the band said no. mostly cause
>>>theres no point, and the guy i got an email from
>>>seemed to be rude.
>>>      
>>>
>>***
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