[vorbis] TAG Standard - ENSEMBLE/PERFORMER tags

Beni Cherniavksy cben at techunix.technion.ac.il
Mon Jan 14 04:41:17 PST 2002



On 2002-01-13, Segher Boessenkool wrote:

> >  - order among tags of different names isn't considered meaningful.
>
> Erm, why not, exactly?
>
> Segher
>

Because one of the developers said so (see below).  I just accept it.

Also I see reasons: editors will tend to have dialogs that have title,
performer, date, etc., at specific places.  They should allow every field
to contain many entries, of course, but we can't expect them to reorder
the fields.  It might be very convenient to always see the titles at the
top, then the performers, and so on (or in any alternative order one
likes).

It's also intuitive: I can understand that if there are many performers,
then the tags define a list of them, an people frequently care about order
in a list of items.  On the other hand I don't readily see the meaning of
"TITLE=Foo Bar, PERFORMER=Quux"  vs.  "PERFORMER=Quux, TITLE=Foo Bar".
These are separate lists.


-- 
Beni Cherniavsky <cben at tx.technion.ac.il>
                 (also scben at t2 in Technion)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 00:23:31 +1000
From: Michael Smith <msmith at labyrinth.net.au>
Reply-To: vorbis at xiph.org
To: vorbis at xiph.org
Subject: Re: [vorbis] Is comment order meaningful?

At 04:25 PM 5/15/01 +0300, you wrote:
>The spec seems to be unclear on this: should two comment haeders who only
>differ in the order of comments be considered equevalent?

Yes, except in the case you discuss below.

>The spec mentions having multiple comments of the same kind:
>
>ARTIST=John
>ARTIST=Jake
>ARTIST=James
>
>In such a case I think the ordering should be considered important, while
>the ordering between comments of different names should not be important
>(e.g. a TITLE coming before an ARTIST is as good as the other way
around).

Most of the players ignore all identical tags after the first (or they
just
use the last). This should be considered a bug.

>
>BTW: Do the various comment editing frontends out there (in particular
>PP's winamp plugin) support having multiple comments of the same name?

Most of them don't, a few do (VCE, a windows editor, does).

Michael

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