[vorbis] Tag Recommendations: Addressed Concerns That Were Raised

[Segher Boessenkool]

Jonathan Walther wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 10:15:40AM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >b) Concerns _have_ been brought forward, they just have been ignored.
> 
> Lets address them then, one by one.

This was not the point of David's statement, nor of my reply.
I just plopped in some links to show that there indeed _has_ been
quite a lot of discussion/dissentment *before* all of this proposal
stuff started.

> >and many many more.

I am not going to rehash all of this.  Thank you very much.

> Please keep them coming; I would like to ensure there is nothing unclear
> or ambiguous about the work that has been done on the Ogg Vorbis Comment
> Field Recommendations.
> 
> ** The following text and my replies were originally before the above
> ** quoted text.  I moved it here for the clarity of this email.
> 
> >No.  The Vorbis comments have one goal: provide human-readable comments.
> 
> The Ogg Vorbis Comment Field Recommendations also has that goal, and
> fulfills it nicely.

As I already told you in private, if you drop the "Ogg Vorbis" part from
that and replace it with "Music File", I have much less problems with it.

> >> 2) As far as traffic to this list, it seems very little has been
> >> decided about a new meta-data format which would supplant comment tags.
> >Then maybe you should focus on working on it?
> 
> Neither David nor I is particularly interested in a metadata format.
> The current system of comment fields is sufficient for our needs.

Well, I just don't agree.  Maye your needs, but not "all people"'s
needs.

> >Any program that doesn't show *all* tags is not compliant.  If a program
> >restricts the user in what tags he can input, users will not like it.
> 
> That statement doesn't seem to have anything to do with the content of
> the Ogg Vorbis Comment Field Recommendations.

That's your opinion.

My opinion is, that if Xiph will make this proposal a "formal standard",
people will think that these are the tags they should use.  Limiting their
freedom.  I don't want that.

> >If, on the other hand, you want to search for a certain file, you should
> >use some library program.  A database like that restricts the user in
> 
> I disagree.  I see no reason standard unix command line tools like grep,
> in conjunction with the vorbiscomment utility, shouldn't be sufficient
> to find the Ogg I want by the contents of its comment fields.

Ah great, let's drop all database technology and go back 30+ years in time.

> Cheers!
> 
> Jonathan

<p>Cheers.  German beer for me, today :)

<p>Segher

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