[vorbis] Are AMDs preferable? [was: Choosing a processor]

Randall Hofland rhofland at fastdial.net
Thu May 31 00:46:31 PDT 2001



BIOS! It can ruin any good chipset and help fix a less than perfect one. Thus
the virtue of flash ROMs.

Wilson wrote:

> All Intel and AMD CPUs are essentially 100% reliable, and have been for many
> years. (Let's ignore the topic of errata.. these are bugs, not creeping
> instabilities..)
> The various chipsets that run these CPUs possess various levels of
> reliability. Opinions differ on how to rank them. Intel->AMD->SiS/Via/ALi
> seems to be easy to get people to agree on. Of course, just like spacetime,
> there are ripples within this general fabric. The Intel i820 chipset, for
> example, is the devil. The Intel 440BX chipset is a magical flying machine
> powered by human joy and the laughter of children, and surrounded by
> meter-thick armor made of neutronium.
> So.. Where do these instability rumors come from? Motherboard manufacturers.
> There are only a couple good ones in the entire world, and even they have
> "dud" motherboard designs from time to time. An great motherboard with a
> weak chipset can still be rock solid. I'm typing this on a Windows 2000
> machine, dual P3s, Via 133A Pro chipset (a weak chipset, for those keeping
> score)
> Other than turning it off while I was out of town last week, it hasn't
> crashed or needed a reboot in 8 months or so. That's because it's on a great
> motherboard, with hand-picked memory.
>
> The moral of the story: If your system crashes once every few days, it's
> probably a cheap motherboard (especially if it's made by ABIT).. If your
> system crashes all the time, you have bigger problems. However, 99% of the
> time, the CPU/Chipset combo isn't to blame.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Dickson" <crdic at yahoo.com>
> To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] Are AMDs preferable? [was: Choosing a processor]
>
> > Dan Hollis wrote:
> >
> > > I had tons of irq-sharing and instability problems on intel chipsets
> with
> > > pentiums, celerons, etc.
> > >
> > > My recent VIA+Athlon has been 100% problem-free, first time in about 3
> > > years of PC hardware purchases.
> >
> > Everyone's mileage varies on this sort of thing, it seems. I've used
> nothing
> > but Intel P2, P3, Celeron, and Coppermine-Celeron systems for the last few
> > years and had no troubles of this sort. Right now I'm typing this on a 700
> MHz
> > Coppermine-Celeron system with an i810-based motherboard. It was a mild
> pain to
> > get set up with Linux (or, rather, with X) only because i810 support
> wasn't
> > built into the Debian 2.2 kernel, but once I found documentation on how to
> fix
> > that (thank you, Google), all was well. There are faster machines out
> there,
> > but by and large I'm quite happy with it.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
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