AW: [vorbis] Hacking up streaming - we want to

[Florian Bruckner]

Concerning the ACM driver: There is already some code, you can get it at

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/vorbisacm

This is a reasonably stable implementation of an ACM driver and has been
tested with WinAMP and Mediaplayer, but it has not been registered with
Microsoft, so currently it is just for testing. Unfortunately I currently do
not have the time to improve the ACM driver.

The only available documentation about ACM is in the Windows 95 DDK. You can
access this online at http://msdn.microsoft.com. You might also want to have
a look at the Multimedia Registration Kit, which is available on the FTP
Server of MS. Just search the Knowledge Base for "Multimedia Registration
Kit" or "MDRK", you should get a link where you can download it.

Concerning a plugin for MediaPlayer: At least Mediaplayer 6.4 doesn't behave
like MS specs say an application should do. You might have to have a look
into DirectShow, which also contains classes for implementing a let's say
next generation ACM.

regards,
Florian

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-vorbis at xiph.org [mailto:owner-vorbis at xiph.org]Im Auftrag von
Tom Bishop
Gesendet: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:21 PM
An: vorbis at xiph.org
Betreff: Re: [vorbis] Hacking up streaming - we want to

> Sgrifennodd Tim Hurman:
>
> Hi Tim :)
>
> >On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Ciaran Anscomb wrote:
> >
> >> Looking through the dev list, I see no current work on plugins for
> >> RealPlayer or Windows Media Player.
> >
> >Real are usually pretty good when it comes to plugins, they usually
> >provide a plugin fairly soon after the format starts being used, however
> >as there does not seem to be much activity on the ogg streaming front (at
> >least publicly viewable) it's unlikly they will motivate themselves to
> >produce the plugin. MS on the other hand... who knows.
>
> Well, I've written to MS asking for pointers to their plugin
> API.

You can go to their site and search for ACM, might help?
I think... Something in there should have pointers if that isn't it..

>So far my mail's been forwarded to "Product Support and Services
> group".  We'll see what happens.  I wouldn't personally like to get myself
> involved in Windows coding, and I doubt any of the team here would either.

Religious issues aside, Windows is clearly the MOST popular platform.
How could a codec be considered "serious" at all if it isn't on the
forefront of the most popular platform?

Microsoft is a HUGE company... I would imagine it to be hard to get
to the right person that has the power and interest to do something.
But I think it is possible if you persist, (with a cheery attitude ;-)..
Maybe they will fund you...

> Maybe it's worth talking to Real about this now and seeing if they
> have a position on it yet?

It would seem that Real Player, and other products from Real
should use your codec..  Would think they have SDK's for
their kit don't they?

> ..ciaran

Regards,
Tom

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