[vorbis] full circle on the text stream format

[Ralph Giles]

On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, robert wrote (via Monty):

> > Otherwise, we need some specific DTDs to try out, and a set of elements
> > for the RDF metadata. I didn't like Robert's recent suggestion very much,
> > so I'll go work on a counter-proposal more representative of my vision.
> 
> I liked the comments that you made WRT the RDF spec -- I've updated the
> spec to reflect the comments that I've received over the past few days.
> 
> Check out the updated spec here: http://www.cdindex.org/MM

This is much more like what I had in mind. Still thinking, but you've
certainly saved me some work there. :)

> My new RDF spec still has support for time synced lyrics, since the MM
> spec goes beyond just Ogg. There are quite a few people who would like
> to see lyrics support be coupled with the MM specification and I think
> this makes perfect sense. However, this does not mean that Ogg needs to
> use this layout -- if Ogg chooses to place the lyrics into a seperate
> stream that's cool too. We will just need to make sure that the tools
> that create/edit RDF streams are capable of pulling out the time sync
> data from the RDF and place it into the proper stream. Thoughts?

I still intend to do synced (and unsynched) lyrics outside the RDF, based
on the idea that is is data more than metadata. You're certainly correct
that we can translate between the two; and in any case I'll endeavor to
make that work. But, if I were doing your project, I'd probably still
approach it this way.

Certainly since I'm going to be developing a DTD anyway, you're welcome to
use it. Furthermore, I'd welcome your collaboration in the design. But be
warned it may take a while; I find the existing synced lyric formats
limited and want to think hard about what belongs and what doesn't.

 -r


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giles at ashlu.bc.ca

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