[vorbis-dev] Mac player; low bitrates; (was Re: vorbis players (or lack of) for mac)

[Kevin Marks]

At 12:49 PM -0800 10/30/01, rillian wrote:
>>Hmm.. don't you like the quality of the QDesign Music 2 codec ? 
>>It's impressive how it can encode in madly low bitrates and yet 
>>sound quite recognizable (try to encode a tune at only 8 kbits/s 
>>with it).
>
>Yes it remains *recognizable* at ridiculously low bitrate, which is 
>what you need to send postage-stamp video over a POTS modem. 
>Unfortunately, it doesn't get much better if you throw more bits at 
>it. So at broadband bitrates it sounds terrible compared to real or 
>windowsmedia.
>
>>BTW, when will vorbis be able to surpass QDesign Music 2 at this 
>>low bitrate ?
>
>No idea. It does sounds miles better at 32 kbps. I'd not heard of 
>anyone squeezing it down to 8.

The key bitrates QDesign is useful for are 20-24 kbps (POTS modem at 28.8)

QDesign tends to sound very flangy, especially on speech, but it can 
give quite listenable music at these rates, and as about half of web 
users are stuck at 28.8 kbit/s, they are important.

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