[vorbis-dev] Mac player; low bitrates; (was Re: vorbis players (or lack of) for mac)
Elifarley C.Coelho
elifarley at task.com.br
Tue Oct 30 06:25:25 PST 2001
> From: rillian (rillian at telus.net)
> Date: Mon 29 Oct 2001 - 22:21:51 PST
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 dongoodman wrote:
>
> > >> frankly, i'm rather tired of the lack of free ogg vorbis players
> for Mac
> > >> OS; it doesn't look like iTunes is going to support the format
> anytime
> > >> soon (and i have some real issues with its interface, too)...so,
> since I'
> > >> ve decided to learn Mac OS X/Cocoa programming, I have no excuse
> for not
> > >> writing one.
>
> I for one would love too see one. It's just that we haven't had anyone
> take charge and write (a free) one. With Cocoa is should be pretty easy.
Creating a free vorbis player was in my plans ;-)
> You're in luck in that Elifarly just posted that he's done a framework
> build.
>
> http://www.xiph.org/archives/vorbis-dev/0188.html
>
> Maybe he could make that code available?
Sure.
> Ideally, we could check it into cvs like we do with the win32 stuff. I
> would be happy just getting the cmdline+dylib tools going, but a
> Framework build makes great sense for a Cocoa application.
Should I send you the appropriate files?
>
> > > Though if you're talking about a one-year time frame to public
> release, I
> > > should hope a player has come along before then... QuickTime
> support is
> > > really needed, and soon, IMHO.
>
> I totally agree here. The delays seem to multiple, and not least
> because the requisite documentation is hard to find and qt internals
> aren't a great match for the way Ogg works.
> I'd also *really* like to see vorbis-over-qt.
I'm eager to have it too. I think I'll have to develop it myself. Does
anyone want to help me ? (hint: dongoodman ? )
> The standard audio codecs apple ships are REALLY TERRIBLE, but sorenson
> is quite good for video (aside from being very non-free of course). So
> this would be a great boost for those of use distributing video over
> the net.
Hmm.. don't you like the quality of the QDesign Music 2 codec ? It's
impressive how it can encode in madly low bitrates and yet sound quite
recognizable (try to encode a tune at only 8 kbits/s with it).
BTW, when will vorbis be able to surpass QDesign Music 2 at this low
bitrate ?
Cheers,
Elifarley C. Coelho
http://www.geocities.com/elifarley/
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