[theora] Fwd: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Opera proposed Theora for
native video playback in browsers
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
supercanadian at gmail.com
Wed Mar 7 15:30:05 PST 2007
Theora needs a nice GUI encoder.
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From: Steve Watkins <steve at dvmachine.com>
Date: Mar 7, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Fwd: Opera proposed Theora for native
video playback in browsers
That is interesting news. I always go on about mpeg4 and h264 as if
they are the ideal, wheras in an ideal world something like ogg theora
would be the most worthwhile format to support - being open and
unburdened by much intellectual property horror.
In practice I rarely respond when you mention this sort of stuff, only
because such things hav not gained widespread popular support from the
majority of users who are on windows or os x. Having dabbled with
Linux I presume that most Linux users are used to having to put in
some extra effort to think about these things, and choose open
formats. If only the same enthusiasm could be transferred over to
people on other paltforms.
There desnt seem to be much of a problem with playing back theora
files on OSX or Windows, as VLC and some other apps can play it, and
quicktime & directshow stuff are available to enable playback within
those systems. There does seem to be a lack of nice easy well-known
encoder applications with proper GUI. The masses arent going to use
command line tools, so where are the developers to bridge the gap? I
tried to use VLC on the mac to encode, using its ability to transcode,
but I only got the audio in the resulting ogg file, the video went
missing somewhere. I will try again sometime.
Anyway I support strongly the idea of video being built into a future
HTML spec, and being supported as standard in browsers. I There could
be problems if peoplew ont use the format till all browsers support
it, if microsoft or apple dont want to play ball, they will only be
forced to if sites use and expect such features and it helps drive
more people to firefox or opera. But will sites use such a format if
others like flash are well established already? Anyway I hope this
initiative leads to something.
I suppose the other issue I could have is how rich the control of the
video is within the page. Need to be able to do things like report
clever stuff (that can currently be done in flash) such as video
conversations linked off timeline, are to be achieved using the
built-in video feature.
Returning to Theora as a whole, my other issue is with hardware
playback & recording support, and the chances of it being used on
mobile phones etc. Its still too early to tell quite how big an issue
these things are, has to catch on with the masses, but mpeg4 and
friends are looking fairly entrenched on these platforms so far.
--- In videoblogging at yahoogroups.com, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux"
<supercanadian at ...> wrote:
> Awesome news!
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> From: Luis Gonzalez <ghempresa at ...>
> Date: Mar 5, 2007 2:23 PM
> Subject: [theora] Opera proposed Theora for native video playback in
> To: theora at ...
> Hi ,
> I see this news in Opera website :
> I think this is a good news for Theora Team and also a greater news
> tag becomes true.
> This extract of the website is incredible :
> 'One thing to keep in mind that adding native support for Theora in
> would only add about 300K to Opera's overall size! And I am sure
> even be optimized to reduce it even further.'
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
charles @ reptile.ca
supercanadian @ gmail.com
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