What about the QT6/scaling issue? (was Re: [theora-codecs] Callfor bugs and suggestions)

[dan miller]

Excellent.  So I guess you got all the asm files to compile as well?

ps Emmett is not maintaining the website anymore -- I guess you should talk to Jack -dan

--- Mauricio Piacentini <mauricio at xiph.org> wrote:
> I agree with everything you said, Dan. I have finished compiling a clean
> version from the current sources, they only need some tweaking to build
> resources correctly on OSX. Building the QT codec on Windows also requires a
> small tweaking to reflect the location of some resource files (from QTSDK)
> that is not covered in the build steps, but it is an easy one. I will update
> the build instructions, and submit an archive with the sources and projects
> I used.
> 
> The remaining issue is an installer: I was thinking about a simpler
> installer that only creates the relevant codec registry keys on Windows, and
> put the files at the correct places on the Mac. This will make it easier for
> people to continue redistributing the codecs.
> 
> When this is done (after the weekend) I will post a link to the final
> binaries and source packages to the list, hopefully Emmet will be able to
> put them somewhere at xiph.org for download, and we can move on.
> 
> Regards,
> Mauricio Piacentini
> Tabuleiro
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dan miller" <danbmil99 at yahoo.com>
> To: <theora-codecs at xiph.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: What about the QT6/scaling issue? (was Re: [theora-codecs]
> Callfor bugs and suggestions)
> 
> 
> > My apologies for being so late to this thread.  As some of you may know, I
> am no longer at On2.
> > However I still plan to work actively on Theora, and I believe that
> keeping the legacy VP3 codecs
> > working is important for Xiph as well.  If nothing else, all these thorny
> issues of build
> > environments and platform inconsistancies will rear their ugly heads
> if/when we get to the point
> > of building Theora-native QT codecs.
> >
> > To run down the major points brought up on this thread:
> >
> > * Compiler problems and legacy support -- My suggestion would be to do a
> final, latest & greatest
> > build using the present crazy toolchain (CW 5, CW7, etc), and get these
> binaries & archived
> > sources up somewhere on Xiph/theora.  Talk to Jack or whomever about
> setting up a download page
> > for this.  I will convince the On2 guys to link to it since they are
> clearly not committed to
> > keeping their site up-to-date.  Going forward we concentrate on new
> platforms (See below)
> >
> > * Performance problems - known issues at Apple.  As someone suggested,
> they are not too committed
> > to 3rd party codecs anymore.  We're on our own more or less, though I have
> found an engineer or
> > two at Apple over the years who cares about this sort of thing.  We (at
> On2) made some changes
> > according to their suggestions, which are reflected in the 3.2.6.x
> releases.  Obviously this is
> > improving the Windows situation.  I am not as familiar with Mac issues,
> someone will have to
> > research it further.
> >
> > * Platform issues -- my suggestion: lock down the old stuff & move on.
> Future development should
> > be OSX/QT6 (and Win/QT6) only.  Apple does such a terrible job of
> supporting their own API's that
> > it is not feasible within our resources to try to keep backwards
> compatibility.  Keep the old
> > stuff around on a page as mentioned, and make sure it's clear to newbies
> what to download for
> > their setup.
> >
> > * Assembly code -- now that we're only concentrating on QT6 and OSX, we
> should standardize on the
> > newest & most popular dev systems (Apple/GCC on Mac, VC7 on Windows).  Get
> clean builds going and
> > the assembly shouldn't be too much of a headache.  The optimizations are
> done; however someone
> > needs to port them to the present toolchain.
> >
> > These are my thoughts as of now - dan
> 
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