[paranoia] IDE drive rip problems

[David Balazic]

Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
> 
> I thought I'd forward this to the list to benefit anyone who's
> experienced/ing similar issues.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Ah!  I should have seen this earlier.  Classic IDE problem...IDE can only use
> one drive on the channel at a time..it has to switch back and forth.  I use
> sda as my main drive, but hda for music.  I'll try hdc or sda tomorrow.

<p>Mind that recent 2.4.x kernels have some issues with memory handling, which
includes also cache flushing. About two devices on the same channel :

yugo<->BMW , IDE<->SCSI , you get what you pay for ...

> - Casey
> 
> On Thursday 17 January 2002 12:19 am, Ray Heasman wrote:
> > Hi Casey,
> >
> > Ok. I have found a workaround (I think).
> >
> > I was using gkrellm (a system monitor) and noticed that the hangups would
> > happen as soon as the kernel starts flushing data to the harddisk, hda in
> > this case (DVDROM is hdb).
> >
> > Things would go slow until the writes to hda finished, and suddenly I
> > would get my machine back again. I have scads of RAM so this would happen
> > about twice per track. The writes were incredibly slow though.
> >
> > So I tried ripping onto another harddisk. Ripping to hdc _seems_ to work
> > reliably. I can actually max out my ROM now.
> >
> > I am not happy with this as a final solution, but if a similar fix works
> > for you I think it could be an important clue...
> >
> > Oh, I forgot to specify my CPU:
> >
> > Initializing CPU#0
> > Detected 1239.049 MHz processor.
> >
> > CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
> > CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
> > CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff 00000000 00000000
> > CPU:     After generic, caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff 00000000 00000000
> > CPU:             Common caps: 0183f9ff c1c7f9ff 00000000 00000000
> > CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping 02
> > Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
> > Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
> >
> > Keep well,
> > Ray
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:48:16 -0500
> >
> > Casey Allen Shobe <cshobe at softhome.net> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 16 January 2002 10:45 pm, Ray Heasman wrote:
> > > > All disk access goes really slow, and even locks my shells.
> > >
> > > Eep, that's worse than mine.
> > >
> > > > I thought we could compare notes and see if there are any similarities
> > > > to our systems:
> > > >
> > > > 1) The drive I am ripping from is setup as an IDE slave.
> > >
> > > Same here.  Primary channel.
> > >
> > > > 2) I am not using ide-scsi for the drive.
> > >
> > > Nor am I.
> > >
> > > > 3) Distribution is Mandrake 8.1 + bits of cooker.
> > >
> > > Linux-from-scratch here.
> > >
> > > > 4) version of cdparanoia:
> > > >
> > > > cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
> > > > (C) 2001 Monty <monty at xiph.org> and Xiphophorus
> > >
> > > cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
> > > (C) 2001 Monty <monty at xiph.org> and Xiphophorus
> > >
> > > > 5) Library rpm:
> > > > libcdda0-IIIa9.8-3mdk
> > >
> > > Compiled from source.
> > >
> > > > 6) I have an ALi motherboard that makes the linux kernel whine at me
> > > > about IRQs on bootup. I wonder if that is causing part of the problem.
> > > > :-(. Here is the output of lspci:
> > >
> > > I have a Via chipset.  No IRQ issues that I know of.
> > >
> > > > 7) Kernel is 2.4.13, a custom compile.
> > >
> > > 2.4.17, custom.
> > >
> > > > Well, I hope this helps both of us and we can find a cause. Please let
> > > > me know if you find a similarity or a solution. I'll do the same.
> > >
> > > No solutions yet.  I find that it locks up more predictably when there is
> > > high load on the system, i.e. running setiathome.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Casey Allen Shobe
> > > cshobe at softhome.net
> > >
> > > 'Why do people with closed minds always open their mouths?'
> 
> --
> Casey Allen Shobe
> cshobe at softhome.net
> 
> 'Why do people with closed minds always open their mouths?'
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