[Icecast] making sense of the stats

[webmaster at berean-biblechurch.org]

Hi, Robert.  I appreciate the explanation.  Indeed, the terminology is
not consistent or intuitive. 

So by your "4 services" you mean _sources_? 

If clients are source connections (one and the same?), then how do we
reconcile limits for both clients and sources?  Is it like saying, 'for
all of the X sources, they can have a total of Y connections'? 

How can I set limits on the number of _listeners_?  And this limit would
be different than a limit on the number of _listener connections_"? 

On 2020-03-26 00:18, Robert Jeffares wrote:

> Hi Justin, 
> 
> _  AREN'T LISTENERS ALSO CLIENTS?_ 
> 
> No. 
> 
> Icecast xml is a bit daunting. 
> 
> There are two kinds of connections. 
> 
> Listener and Client 
> 
> Client:... 
> 
> Connections from your source which may be darkice, BUTT, or some other encoder. 
> 
> You actually need plenty of these. I set mine to 20 when I have 4 services. 
> 
> One client may have several connections. I assume there is some handshaking and there may be metadata as well. 
> 
> Listener:... 
> 
> Connections from anyone using the mount address which may be a listener or a relay. 
> 
> The same listener can connect more than once. The reconnect may be because of a gap the listener does not know about because of the buffer, or store o audio waiting to be played. 
> 
> On ADSL I limit this number to 5 and on Fibre I limit this to 10. Your ISP will choke the upload bandwidth especially mp3. I use AAC+ which has a smaller data size for the same quality, it's also not on the choke list. 
> 
> If you plan on having more listeners than 5 or so then you need a Streaming Service who may take your stream and feed it to 100,200 or some larger number of listeners for $xx.95 a month. Most of these are mp3 only. 
> 
> hope this helps 
> 
> regards 
> 
> Robert 
> 
> On 26/03/20 2:24 pm, webmaster at berean-biblechurch.org wrote: 
> 
>> I can't make sense of the connection stats on the admin page.  We have one source and one mountpoint. 
>> 
>> What is the difference between _client_connections_ and _clients_ and _connection_s?  How can they be so different in value?  Same questions for _listener_connections_ and _listeners_?  The connections values seem high for only 5 listeners and one admin. 
>> 
>> Here is a snapshot of the admin page a few minutes after the server was started and mountpoint was made available: 
>> 
>> client_connections
>> 18
>> 
>> clients
>> 7
>> 
>> connections
>> 24
>> 
>> file_connections
>> 0
>> 
>> listener_connections
>> 17
>> 
>> listeners
>> 5
>> 
>> source_client_connections
>> 1
>> 
>> source_relay_connections
>> 0
>> 
>> source_total_connections
>> 1
>> 
>> sources
>> 1
>> 
>> stats
>> 0
>> 
>> stats_connections
>> 0
>> 
>> Mountpoint /live.mp3
>> listener_peak
>> 6
>> 
>> listeners
>> 5
>> 
>> max_listeners
>> unlimited 
>> 
>> After more people started to connect, the admin #s got even more whacky. 
>> 
>> Then, I have the max clients set to 25, yet the mountpoint says 'unlimited' listeners.  Why the difference here?  Aren't listeners also clients? 
>> 
>> <limits>
>> <clients>25</clients>
>> <sources>1</sources> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Justin 
>> 
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