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<p>Hi, Robert. I appreciate the explanation. Indeed, the terminology is not consistent or intuitive.</p>
<p>So by your "4 services" you mean <em>sources</em>?</p>
<p>If clients are source connections (one and the same?), then how do we reconcile limits for both clients and sources? Is it like saying, 'for all of the X sources, they can have a total of Y connections'?</p>
<p>How can I set limits on the number of <em>listeners</em>? And this limit would be different than a limit on the number of <em>listener connections</em>"?</p>
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<p>On 2020-03-26 00:18, Robert Jeffares wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi Justin,</p>
<p><em><strong> Aren't listeners also clients?</strong></em></p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>Icecast xml is a bit daunting.</p>
<p>There are two kinds of connections.</p>
<p>Listener and Client</p>
<p>Client:...</p>
<p>Connections from your source which may be darkice, BUTT, or some other encoder.</p>
<p>You actually need plenty of these. I set mine to 20 when I have 4 services.</p>
<p>One client may have several connections. I assume there is some handshaking and there may be metadata as well.</p>
<p>Listener:...</p>
<p>Connections from anyone using the mount address which may be a listener or a relay. </p>
<p>The same listener can connect more than once. The reconnect may be because of a gap the listener does not know about because of the buffer, or store o audio waiting to be played. </p>
<p>On ADSL I limit this number to 5 and on Fibre I limit this to 10. Your ISP will choke the upload bandwidth especially mp3. I use AAC+ which has a smaller data size for the same quality, it's also not on the choke list.</p>
<p>If you plan on having more listeners than 5 or so then you need a Streaming Service who may take your stream and feed it to 100,200 or some larger number of listeners for $xx.95 a month. Most of these are mp3 only. </p>
<p>hope this helps</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Robert</p>
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<p>I can't make sense of the connection stats on the admin page. We have one source and one mountpoint.</p>
<p>What is the difference between <em>client_connections</em> and <em>clients</em> and <em>connection</em>s? How can they be so different in value? Same questions for <em>listener_connections</em> and <em>listeners</em>? The connections values seem high for only 5 listeners and one admin.</p>
<p>Here is a snapshot of the admin page a few minutes after the server was started and mountpoint was made available:</p>
<p> client_connections<br /> 18<br /> <br /> clients<br /> 7<br /> <br /> connections<br /> 24<br /> <br /> file_connections<br /> 0<br /> <br /> listener_connections<br /> 17<br /> <br /> listeners<br /> 5<br /> <br /> source_client_connections<br /> 1<br /> <br /> source_relay_connections<br /> 0<br /> <br /> source_total_connections<br /> 1<br /> <br /> sources<br /> 1<br /> <br /> stats<br /> 0<br /> <br /> stats_connections<br /> 0<br /> <br /> Mountpoint /live.mp3<br /> listener_peak<br /> 6<br /> <br /> listeners<br /> 5<br /> <br /> max_listeners<br /> unlimited</p>
<p>After more people started to connect, the admin #s got even more whacky.</p>
<p>Then, I have the max clients set to 25, yet the mountpoint says 'unlimited' listeners. Why the difference here? Aren't listeners also clients?</p>
<p><limits><br /> <clients>25</clients><br /> <sources>1</sources></p>
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<p>Thanks,<br /> Justin</p>
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