[icecast] Icecast2 Ogg Clients

Michael Smith msmith at xiph.org
Tue Dec 9 00:39:54 UTC 2003

On Tuesday 09 December 2003 03:00, Nicholas Humfrey wrote:
> Hi,
> I was streaming Ogg Vorbis to a mount point which didn't end .ogg
> ogg123 played the stream without any problems, but other clients
> (xmms, Audion) just kept rebuffering and failed to detect that it as
> an Ogg encoded stream.
> Surely the client should use the MIME type provided by the server
> rather than rely on the suffix in a URL ?

They should. A large number of them are horribly broken (I don't know about 
audion, but in the case of both xmms and winamp, the plugin API is designed 
such that the _plugin_ has to do the HTTP streaming itself - and the plugin 
has to decide whether to handle the play request _before_ it actually starts 
the request. I believe this was fixed in winamp3, but winamp3 had many other 
even more serious bugs that made streaming not work reliably at all.

> Is there any attempt to encourage clients to be more standard ?

<p>We'd really, really, like to. The problems are generally very deep, though - 
and we don't have the resources to lobby everyone. We'd welcome people going 
and complaining to the creators of their favourite buggy audio players, 
though :-)


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