[foms] The State of HTML5 Video

John Luther jluther at google.com
Tue Jan 31 06:27:42 PST 2012


OK, thanks, Jeroen.

--JL




On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Jeroen Wijering
<jeroen at longtailvideo.com>wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> We tested the following video on the following devices. Neither of them
> played the video:
>
> http://content.bitsontherun.com/videos/bkaovAYt-27m5HpIu.webm
>
> 1) HTC Legend running 2.2
> 2) HTC Desire S running 2.3
> 3) Samsung Galaxy S2 running 2.3
>
> We've since also tested on a Galaxy Nexus running 4.0, which indeed both
> plays the video and returns "maybe" on the canPlayType query. We'll update
> the report this week with these findings.
>
> Let us know if we're missing something here. Another weird outcome of our
> tests was that the Galaxy S2 running 2.3 did play HLS streams, which may
> indicate Samsung (and HTC?) customizes media support:
>
> http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/hls
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jeroen Wijering
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:53 PM, John Luther wrote:
>
> > Hi, Zach. Just wondering what versions of Android you tested against.
>  Versions back to Gingerbread (2.3) support WebM playback in software. WebM
> files in HTML5 don't return 'maybe' for canPlayType but if clicked will
> player in the onboard media player.
> >
> > For Ice Cream Sandwich, your WebM test case returns 'maybe' and plays in
> the browser itself on my Galaxy Nexus.
> >
> > --JL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Zachary Ozer <zach at longtailvideo.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Silvia,
> >
> > They support fullscreen playback, but we list it as partial API support
> because of the prefix:
> >
> > The W3C recently started working on a fullscreen API specification.
> Using this API, it is possible to render any HTML element in fullscreen, so
> custom controls can be added over/around a video. Safari and Chrome support
> this API in their latest versions, using the webkit vendor prefix. A
> similar implementation (using moz) will land in Firefox 10.
> >
> > It's fair to note that given that the spec isn't finalized, no browser
> *could* have full API support.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Zach
> > --
> > Zachary Ozer
> > Developer, LongTail Video
> >
> > w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140 • f:
> 212.656.1335
> > JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <
> silviapfeiffer1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Zachary,
> >
> > Chrome 15+ has fullscreen support and so does Safari5, see
> >
> http://johndyer.name/native-fullscreen-javascript-api-plus-jquery-plugin/
> > .
> > Maybe it's the extra webkit prefix that threw you off?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Silvia.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Zachary Ozer <zach at longtailvideo.com>
> wrote:
> > > That's my bad - turns out that our Galaxy tab just needed to be
> restarted.
> > > It's now (mostly) happy to play media in browser.
> > >
> > > We'll do some HLS tests presently.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Zach
> > > --
> > > Zachary Ozer
> > > Developer, LongTail Video
> > >
> > > w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140 •
> f:
> > > 212.656.1335
> > > JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Zachary Ozer <zach at longtailvideo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Michael!
> > >>
> > >> Have you seen this in action on a specific device? (Our Galaxy tab
> running
> > >> 3.2 here at the office won't play *any* media.)
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Zach
> > >> --
> > >> Zachary Ozer
> > >> Developer, LongTail Video
> > >>
> > >> w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140 •
> f:
> > >> 212.656.1335
> > >> JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Michael Dale <mdale at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Nice write up.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also another small note.. As of android 3+ they should support HLS
> > >>> streams:
> > >>>
> http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html#multimedia
> > >>>
> > >>> --michael
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 1/26/12 12:07 PM, Pablo Schklowsky wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi, Chris -
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for the updates!  I've played around with fullscreen support
> in
> > >>> the Nightly build, glad to hear it's got a a scheduled drop date.
> > >>>
> > >>> We'll be sure to update the guide as those versions ship (we're
> limiting
> > >>> the scope of this doc to browser versions that are currently in the
> > >>> marketplace).
> > >>>
> > >>> Good point on the yellow cross -- looks like we forgot to add a key
> for
> > >>> those tables.   That particular icon indicates partial support.
> > >>>
> > >>>     -pablo
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Chris Pearce <cpearce at mozilla.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Zack,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That's a pretty good write up. Just a few updates on recent
> developments
> > >>>> in Firefox:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The loop attribute will be shipping in Firefox 11 (around 13 March).
> > >>>> The HTML5 fullscreen API will be enabled in Firefox 11 (around 13
> > >>>> March). It's in Firefox 10 (shipping 31 January, next week) but is
> disabled.
> > >>>> The crossorigin attribute will be shipping in Firefox 12 (around 24
> > >>>> April).
> > >>>> What does a yellow cross in your tables mean?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> Chris Pearce.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 27/01/2012 5:39 a.m., Zachary Ozer wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi FOMS,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Just wanted to give you a heads up that we published this
> > >>>> today: http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Would love to incorporate any feedback you have!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Best,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Zach
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Zachary Ozer
> > >>>> Developer, LongTail Video
> > >>>>
> > >>>> w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140• f:
> > >>>> 212.656.1335
> > >>>> JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> > >>>>
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> > >>> e: pablo at longtailvideo.com
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John Luther
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