[foms] The State of HTML5 Video

Tue Jan 31 00:16:01 PST 2012

Hello John,

We tested the following video on the following devices. Neither of them played the video:

http://content.bitsontherun.com/videos/bkaovAYt-27m5HpIu.webm

1) HTC Legend running 2.2
2) HTC Desire S running 2.3
3) Samsung Galaxy S2 running 2.3

We've since also tested on a Galaxy Nexus running 4.0, which indeed both plays the video and returns "maybe" on the canPlayType query. We'll update the report this week with these findings. 

Let us know if we're missing something here. Another weird outcome of our tests was that the Galaxy S2 running 2.3 did play HLS streams, which may indicate Samsung (and HTC?) customizes media support:

http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/hls

Kind regards,

Jeroen Wijering

On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:53 PM, John Luther wrote:

> Hi, Zach. Just wondering what versions of Android you tested against.  Versions back to Gingerbread (2.3) support WebM playback in software. WebM files in HTML5 don't return 'maybe' for canPlayType but if clicked will player in the onboard media player. 
> 
> For Ice Cream Sandwich, your WebM test case returns 'maybe' and plays in the browser itself on my Galaxy Nexus.
> 
> --JL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Zachary Ozer <zach at longtailvideo.com> wrote:
> Hi Silvia,
> 
> They support fullscreen playback, but we list it as partial API support because of the prefix:
> 
> The W3C recently started working on a fullscreen API specification. Using this API, it is possible to render any HTML element in fullscreen, so custom controls can be added over/around a video. Safari and Chrome support this API in their latest versions, using the webkit vendor prefix. A similar implementation (using moz) will land in Firefox 10.
> 
> It's fair to note that given that the spec isn't finalized, no browser *could* have full API support.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Zach
> --
> Zachary Ozer
> Developer, LongTail Video
> 
> w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140 • f: 212.656.1335
> JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Zachary,
> 
> Chrome 15+ has fullscreen support and so does Safari5, see
> http://johndyer.name/native-fullscreen-javascript-api-plus-jquery-plugin/
> .
> Maybe it's the extra webkit prefix that threw you off?
> 
> Cheers,
> Silvia.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Zachary Ozer <zach at longtailvideo.com> wrote:
> > That's my bad - turns out that our Galaxy tab just needed to be restarted.
> > It's now (mostly) happy to play media in browser.
> >
> > We'll do some HLS tests presently.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Zach
> > --
> > Zachary Ozer
> > Developer, LongTail Video
> >
> > w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140 • f:
> > 212.656.1335
> > JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Zachary Ozer <zach at longtailvideo.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Michael!
> >>
> >> Have you seen this in action on a specific device? (Our Galaxy tab running
> >> 3.2 here at the office won't play *any* media.)
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Zach
> >> --
> >> Zachary Ozer
> >> Developer, LongTail Video
> >>
> >> w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140 • f:
> >> 212.656.1335
> >> JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Michael Dale <mdale at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Nice write up.
> >>>
> >>> Also another small note.. As of android 3+ they should support HLS
> >>> streams:
> >>> http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html#multimedia
> >>>
> >>> --michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 1/26/12 12:07 PM, Pablo Schklowsky wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi, Chris -
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the updates!  I've played around with fullscreen support in
> >>> the Nightly build, glad to hear it's got a a scheduled drop date.
> >>>
> >>> We'll be sure to update the guide as those versions ship (we're limiting
> >>> the scope of this doc to browser versions that are currently in the
> >>> marketplace).
> >>>
> >>> Good point on the yellow cross -- looks like we forgot to add a key for
> >>> those tables.   That particular icon indicates partial support.
> >>>
> >>>     -pablo
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Chris Pearce <cpearce at mozilla.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Zack,
> >>>>
> >>>> That's a pretty good write up. Just a few updates on recent developments
> >>>> in Firefox:
> >>>>
> >>>> The loop attribute will be shipping in Firefox 11 (around 13 March).
> >>>> The HTML5 fullscreen API will be enabled in Firefox 11 (around 13
> >>>> March). It's in Firefox 10 (shipping 31 January, next week) but is disabled.
> >>>> The crossorigin attribute will be shipping in Firefox 12 (around 24
> >>>> April).
> >>>> What does a yellow cross in your tables mean?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Chris Pearce.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 27/01/2012 5:39 a.m., Zachary Ozer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi FOMS,
> >>>>
> >>>> Just wanted to give you a heads up that we published this
> >>>> today: http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/
> >>>>
> >>>> Would love to incorporate any feedback you have!
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Zach
> >>>> --
> >>>> Zachary Ozer
> >>>> Developer, LongTail Video
> >>>>
> >>>> w: longtailvideo.com • e: zach at longtailvideo.com • p: 212.244.0140 • f:
> >>>> 212.656.1335
> >>>> JW Player  |  Bits on the Run  |  LongTail.tv
> >>>>
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