[advocacy] Ogg & Ogg Vorbis _unofficial_ logos page.

[Victor Marks]

I'll chime in. I expect to get replies from folks who won't be  
satisfied with my suggestion.

It is a new invention, applying branding to a standard which anyone may  
use. This has only really come to exist in the past 15 years or so.

Standards that have logos so that the consumer knows they are approved  
are:

iLink, and the Firewire 'Y' logo
USB (the root hub tree symbol on every cable and the italicized USB  
writing on boxes)
Any of the CD and DVD logos (CD with the word audio underneath. Or  
recordable. Or whichever word matches the format of the disc.)

All of these logos are uniform, plain, and can be printed on any box,  
and yet are identifiable and plainly spell out what the standard is,  
the possible exception from the above list being the confusion over  
Firewire/iLink/DV, etc, where the connectors are all there, but you end  
up looking for IEEE1394 just to make sure that it's the one you need.

A logo that accomplishes what the CD standard logos do (spell out which  
kind of format it is) are great. A fish and a hammer and snake do not  
do that.

The independence font is a great font, identifiable, and readable in  
common romance language letters.

If you wish to choose a logo through a contest, submit to both slashdot  
as well as some graphics arts sites, and ones that mac fans frequent.

Victor Marks

On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Miguel A. Arévalo wrote:

> Jack Moffitt wrote:
>> We don't have anyone here good enough to compete at a level where we'd
>> accept the logos.  At least judging from past experience.
>
> A properly announced contest (even only in Slashdot) will give you a  
> big audience with a good share of designers. There has been very good  
> ones at the wikepedia's contest.
>
>> The fish logo looks fine in black and white.  They are already doing
>> fullcolor stuff on the rest of the box.
>
> I'm sorry but as you can see:
>
> http://www.mrmoogle.de/gallery/ 
> view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=iHP-120- 
> Review&id=iriver_ihp120rev_img_19b
>
> the whole box is only in shades of gray, they prefer spending money on  
> good earbuds and digital in/out that in flashy boxes.
>
>> We see both happening already, and some people using the fish.  Most
>> people use the fish.
>
> Which is an error, the fish is the logo of the Xiph.org Foundation.  
> But, then again, neither the fish nor the thor-and-snake tells  
> anything about Ogg nor Vorbis, they are far too eclectic and  
> elaborated.
>
> > I suggest coming up with a few different ideas and then presenting  
> them
> > formally at one of the monthly meetings.
>
> Oh! friend, this remembers me the "good old days" of the ITU-T, come  
> on boys, we are in a post-"Cathedral and Bazaar" world, there should  
> be more flexible ways to do simple things...
>
> Regards,
>
> Miguel A. Arévalo
>
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