Andy Baxter wrote: > -q 1 gives a bitrate of about 60 kbps. even -q -1 only goes down to about > 30 in mono. I meant -q -1 along with the resampling/downmixing, as opposed to using -b etc. But I see you've found the source of your problem. BTW: Vorbis 1.1 is about to be released which might help things a little. Geoff.