[vorbis] Re: [theora] xiph.org irc channels moving

[Jeremy Nickurak]

I'd just like to throw my 2 cents in here. 

I can understand the need to drop a xiph irc server. However, I do take 
issue with moving to Freenode. The reason that we moved so long ago (as 
I understand it) is that an overwhelming flood of politics made real 
vorbis discussion uncomfortable. A few people took things personally and
acted out, and pretty soon everybody was on edge. Just looking at all 
three channels from the two networks now, it seems that this same effect
is already starting to return at the very mention of this situation 
coming back to everybody's attention. On top of that freenode has a 
history of technical problems (splits, rehubbings, dns failures like 
that one they suffered yesterday), and political problems (accusations 
of censorship mostly). 

<p>If someone can give me a reason to believe that these issues have been 
resolved, I'd be more than happy to hear it. I just haven't seen any 
evidence of it yet. 

<p>In lieu of that, can we please consider another irc network, like OFTC, 
or Slashnet? 

<p>On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 17:40, Ralph Giles wrote: 
> Everybody,
> 
> We're shutting down irc.xiph.org, which has hosted our official
> development and support IRC channels for the past couple of years.
> The main channels (#vorbis, #icecast, #theora, #positron) have
> moved to irc.freenode.net; please go there with your support or
> development questions.
> 
> We'd also like to take this opportunity to refocus the channels
> on development and support. Freenode is a network for open source
> developers and their projects; please try to keep discussion
> on topic. Adiabatic and vanguardist have started a #vorbis-talk
> channel for social stuff.
> 
> The current server will be shutdown on or before next Sunday, October
5,
> to give everyone some time to learn of the change and migrate.
> 
> A number t of people have asked about the reasons behind the move.
> We've never liked running the ircd on the server that hosts the more
> critical cvs/mail/web services. The Xiph.org Foundation board made
> a decision some time ago to remove the irc server; in the intervening
> months our irc opers haven't been able to find a more suitable host.
> The move to the freenode network represents the most logical choice
> of network for our project.
> 
> I'd also like to thank our opers for their work in running the
xiph.org
> irc network. We really appreciate your time and effort.
> 
> Cheers,
> -r
> 
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