[vorbis] streaming

[Vincent]

thanks for your answer, i will visit the link you gave me.

you said:
if it encodes something simpe, it drops the bitrate ?
the other compression formats like Mp3 or VQF do the same isn't it?

This doesn't explain me the story about wich technic is being used by ogg.
it must have its own technic to suit the streaming needs, and this technic
must be different from the other codecs, but what is this technic?

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Cridland" <james.cridland at virginradio.co.uk>
To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] bit rate

<p>> It's technically good at streaming for broadcasters because, if it encodes
> something simple, it drops the bitrate and therefore our costs.
>
> And it sounds great too, but you wanted technical reasons... !
>
> By the way, Virgin Radio UK's broadband streams are now proper stereo,
> instead of the suspicious mono-sounding version you had for the past few
> weeks - so if you want your non-technical reasons, do visit us.
> www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen from any non-MSIE browser. (Users
> with Mozilla on the PC - there's a test Ogg embedded player for you to
play
> with.)
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent <vincent.tiberghien at fsatie.ac.za>
> To: vorbis at xiph.org <vorbis at xiph.org>
> Sent: Fri Sep 26 07:58:35 2003
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] bit rate
>
> ok, but what are the specifications of Ogg that make it so good at
> streaming.
> Why is Ogg technically good at strweaming?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tyler Knott" <vault-responce at charter.net>
> To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] bit rate
>
>
> > engdev wrote:
> >
> > >Yes,
> > >
> > >It has been said many times on this list that Vorbis is naturally VBR.
> But I
> > >was under the impression that streaming perfomed best using CBR.
> > >
> > >So, why?
> > >
> > >
> > While Vorbis is nativly VBR is still sounds pretty decent in CBR/ABR
> > modes(and certainly much better than MP3).  Vorbis is also the only
> > non-proprietary lossy codec other than MP3(which is proprietary to some
> > extent) to support streaming.  It also uses the Ogg container format
> > which was designed from the start for use with streaming.  And coming
> > soon, Vorbis 1.1 will sound much better at lower bitrates making it even
> > better for streaming.
> >
> > BTW, while we're on 1.1, how long until we can see that release?
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