[vorbis] bit rate

[James Cridland]

It's technically good at streaming for broadcasters because, if it encodes
something simple, it drops the bitrate and therefore our costs.

And it sounds great too, but you wanted technical reasons... !

By the way, Virgin Radio UK's broadband streams are now proper stereo,
instead of the suspicious mono-sounding version you had for the past few
weeks - so if you want your non-technical reasons, do visit us.
www.virginradio.co.uk/thestation/listen from any non-MSIE browser. (Users
with Mozilla on the PC - there's a test Ogg embedded player for you to play
with.)


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<p><p>-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent <vincent.tiberghien at fsatie.ac.za>
To: vorbis at xiph.org <vorbis at xiph.org>
Sent: Fri Sep 26 07:58:35 2003
Subject: Re: [vorbis] bit rate

ok, but what are the specifications of Ogg that make it so good at
streaming.
Why is Ogg technically good at strweaming?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Knott" <vault-responce at charter.net>
To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] bit rate

<p>> engdev wrote:
>
> >Yes,
> >
> >It has been said many times on this list that Vorbis is naturally VBR.
But I
> >was under the impression that streaming perfomed best using CBR.
> >
> >So, why?
> >
> >
> While Vorbis is nativly VBR is still sounds pretty decent in CBR/ABR
> modes(and certainly much better than MP3).  Vorbis is also the only
> non-proprietary lossy codec other than MP3(which is proprietary to some
> extent) to support streaming.  It also uses the Ogg container format
> which was designed from the start for use with streaming.  And coming
> soon, Vorbis 1.1 will sound much better at lower bitrates making it even
> better for streaming.
>
> BTW, while we're on 1.1, how long until we can see that release?
>
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