[vorbis] ArtistHost

[Lorenzo Prince]

I don't understand why that company considers Windows Media to be a main
format, or more popular than Ogg Vorbis.  The only place I have ever seen
more Windows Media than Ogg Vorbis is on web sites that do streaming.  Most
files that are extracted from CD's or encoded from other formats are usually
in mp3.  Quite a few are in Ogg Vorbis.  The rest, which are very few, are
in WMA format.  I know I don't store my CD's in WMA format.  So how can they
even put Windows Media on the same plain with mp3 or Ogg Vorbis?
Also, I guess it is, as you said, a "which came first?  The chicken or the
Ogg" situation.  It's a very strange business phenomenon.
(We thePeople):  Could you please support what we like in your product?
(Company): We won't support it until it's popular.
(We the People): When you support our format it will become popular.
(Company): Sorry, but we won't support it until it's popular.
What they don't realize is that Ogg Vorbis is already quite popular.  But
it's companies like that that keep it from being more popular than it
already is.  Ogg Vorbis isn't a popular format in the hardware market
because hardware manufacturers don't currently support it.  Hardware
manufacturers don't currently support Ogg Vorbis because it isn't popular in
the hardware market.  This is a bad business practice, and will eventually
lead to the company going bankrupt, or at least losing a lot of business.
Maybe some of us can help by making a hardware player available that
supports Ogg Vorbis.  Not sure, and it may be difficult to do, but it's just
a thought.  Otherwise, we can all just buy the first or best player to
support Ogg Vorbis, and tell everyone else to buy it too.  Let the first
company to support Ogg Vorbis in their hardware get all the business.  and
then maybe the other companies will finally see the light and turn to the
fish.
----- Original Message -----
From: "O Si Yo" <axionman2k2 at yahoo.com>
To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] ArtistHost

<p>> the old 'which came first, the chicken or the ogg'
> syndrome.
>
> chickens do not do .ogg
>
> pawk pawk pawk pawk
>
> I wrote the company making a new non-CD portable
> player, that uses a 15GB drive to store sound files.
> Adding support for the .ogg codec would seem trivial
> for such a computer based player.
>
> Their customer service rep indicated interest:
>
> > [name] check this out, what do you think. I get
> > inquiries about this all the
> > time...........Luis
>
> But the tech replied:
>
> > We here at e.digital have hear alot about .ogg
> > format, but tell it becomes a
> > main format (Like mp3 or WMA) it will be considered
> > and looked into.
> > [name]
> > e.digital Test Supervisor.
>
> I wrote back to him to encourage such consideration.
> He curtly replied:
>
> "When Ogg becomes more of a main format like (Mp3 and
> wma) there will be more consideration for that format,
> but tell then it will not."  The end.  Looks like some
> other company with vision will reap the benefits of
> going with .ogg first.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Martin Blackwell <djdij at handbags.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > heres a quote from an email about this hosting
> > company who requested that their site be listed in
> > the links section of the website i run for a band on
> > Homstead. Both me and the band said no. mostly cause
> > theres no point, and the guy i got an email from
> > seemed to be rude.
>
> ***
>
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