[vorbis] An Analysis of the c't Codec Test

[Sebastian Droege]

Hi,
just share 10-30 seconds of the song in question where you hear the greatest difference

Bye

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:21:13 +0200
"James Snook" <james.snook at gmx.net> wrote:

> I would gladly provide the CD's in WAV (takes a while on isdn mind you)
> but that sadly is not exactly legal, advise me to the point where clips
> become piracy and I'll cut `em up and post em online :)
> This may take a bit longer than simple ISDN speed limits however as my
> domain just expired (or is about to) and my host has vanished, nice
> huh?!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-vorbis at xiph.org [mailto:owner-vorbis at xiph.org] On Behalf Of
> Giuliano Pochini
> Sent: 04 October 2002 09:38
> To: Caleb
> Cc: vorbis at xiph.org
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] An Analysis of the c't Codec Test
> 
> 
> 
> Well, I couldn't find music that I could abx at
> -q6 or above, and it is mainly due to the famous
> loud trebles thing. You should provide us some
> sound clips that vorbis clearly "fails" to encode
> at high -q. We can imagine what you're hearing,
> but it's quite useless :)).
> 
> 
> On 04-Oct-2002 Caleb wrote:
> > I found a noticable difference between -q6 and -q8.. everything below 
> > -q6 (i tested -q5.5 and -q4) had something wierd.
> >
> > as if there is something in the background.. if you compare -q6 with 
> > the cd version you can easly hear the difference even if you're deaf. 
> > So i mainly use -q8, although the file size is huge.
> >
> > I havent tested this with mp3s though.
> >
> > --- Monty <xiphmont at xiph.org> wrote:
> >> > I don't have my logs anymore, as it was all purly personal testing
> >> for
> >> > myself and some friends, but the fact was there that I could
> >> distinctly
> >> > hear high freq' flange and "washy sound" in Vorbis up untill about
> >> 7.00,
> >> > although I admit you had to really listen hard to even tell, the
> >> fact
> >> > remains for my music that MP3 is just plain better still for file
> >> size
> >> > to sound quality ratio =/
> 
> 
> Bye.
> 
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