[vorbis] Ogg too good?

Nathan I. Sharfi nisharfi at csupomona.edu
Wed Mar 6 11:07:45 PST 2002



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for the tagging problems of flac, have you considered using something else
to mix in the tags? I wrote sonice < http://www.cyclooctane.com/sonice > to
deal with the problem of mixing in comments to flac files. Have a look at my
tag collection at < http://www.cyclooctane.com/~comatoast/files/myinfo.zip >
for a general form of how to set up directories; the .flac files are just
named track01.flac, track02.flac, ... in a directory called "flac" parallel
to the info directory.

I do all of my compressing on Windows (my openbsd machine doesn't have the
processor power to finish in a timely manner), but nothing breaks (as far as
I can tell) on my OpenBSD machine. other than the shebang, I'd assume that
any linux distro would be able to use it as well as obsd.

I'd appreciate constructive criticism on the thing.

</self_promotion>

<p>On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Wilson wrote:

> Yes. This is exactly my reasoning. I'm about to pick up a 160GB drive and do
> the same.
> You can store roughly 320 CDs in FLAC format on a 160GB drive. I have more
> than that, but I don't necessarily need them all ripped. Also, having the
> FLACs around makes it easy to cut MP3s at specific bitrates when you want to
> make files that are compatible with your portable MP3 player, etc.
> It would be super-cool if Oggenc could take FLAC files as input, though.
> The only real drawback to FLAC is that the tagging is awful.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Walther" <krooger at debian.org>
> To: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [vorbis] Ogg too good?
>
> I bought a 160G drive, and now I just save everything as flac, and THEN
> encode it to ogg.  If I ever want to reencode my stuff, I can go back to
> the original flac files, since they are lossless.
>
> This approach costs about $0.70 per CD that can be stored on the disk.
> Just about the same cost as a jewel case.  Saves a lot of space though
> for cramped quarters where it may not be practical to put up a little CD
> rack to hold your collection of 1000 or more CD's.
>
> I'm paranoid that Ogg might get better... I don't want to be stuck with
> old ugly sounding ogg's when I could reencode them to be better
> sounding...
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:59:17PM -0500, Wilson wrote:
> >I'd like to point out that I mostly use q7 out of a deep-seated sense of
> >paranoia. q4.99 sounds great to me, but disks are cheap, so I add some
> >margin in case my hardware gets better down the road.

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