[vorbis] When will quality increase be unnoticable?
David K. Gasaway
dave at gasaway.org
Thu Jun 20 18:02:13 PDT 2002
Øyvind Stegard wrote:
> 1. I agree that improving quality makes it possible to reduce data
> amount even more, but I think only up to a certain point.
There's a lot of leeway in _lossy_ compression. Still, the idea is that
we have a quality to size ratio. Increase the quality or decrease the
size, and you get the same effect: a higher ratio.
It's all a matter of perspective, really. If you want to see higher
quality as Vorbis improves, then you might creep up your -q setting
enough to keep bitrates equal. If you'd rather have smaller files,
keep the -q setting the same. (Of course, I'm guessing which way Vorbis
will develop; it could go the other way, I suppose.)
> 4. I think in bitrate terms too much. How should I think ? Hmm... I
> still can't see anything wrong with referring to a certain bitrate and
> talking about how well it sounds.
Well, bitrate's a moving target, which makes it a poor measure of
quality. Bitrates also vary depending on sample rate, number of
channels, etc. It's mostly just a measure of size (time is constant).
"Anything less than 1 MB is doesn't have enough quality."
Doesn't work for me, anyway. ;)
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