[vorbis] TAG Standard - ENSEMBLE/PERFORMER tags

[Jonathan Walther]

What you want to do is what the metadata stream is for.  Please
leave the tags alone and start the discussion rolling about the
metadata stream.

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:14:14AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote:
>Some of us like having everything there is to know about our songs readily
>available in the file.  It's nice to have standard names for them, even

The current version of the standard gives enough tags that you can
locate the track and CD it came from.  If you want all that "extra"
information, either use the metadata stream, or use an external
database.

The current mandate of the tagging standard is: identify what you are
listening to so you know what it is, and so you can go out and buy it.

The tagging standard doesn't forbid any extra tags.  I wouldn't even
object to a tagging standard doing what you suggest, but the problem is
that there is no end to the number of tags that would have to be
"standardized".  You have to draw the line somewhere to stop the
standard from mushrooming in complexity.  As it stands now, I had a lot
of people complaining it was "too bloated", but they have been silent
for a while.

Tell you what.  The current standard I've been working on has the
mandate already mentioned.  If you make a up a list of tags that should
be added to expand the standard to fill YOUR needs, I'm willing to add
it as "Appendix A".  Deal?  Come up with the document, and I'll add it.
At the beginning of Appendix A it will be made clear that supporting it
is only required if one wants to support your much expanded mandate.

Multi-language support?  Everyone should use ASCII.  All those Asian
encodings?  When I was in Korea I played with them.  Big5, etc.  In the
famous words of Marie Antoinette: let them use ASCII.  Instead of using
a 64 bit glyph to represent a Chinese ideogram, use 3-4 bytes to spell
out the word in the romanized version.  Ditto Korean.  Let the display
software turn the word-strings into indexes into a table of appropriate
glyphs.

Well, thats only going to happen in my dreams.  So instead of
complaining that the standard doesn't account for "multiple languages",
put up your own proposal.  But it has to be compatible with tags as
already specified by Monty in the codec.

Jonathan

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