[vorbis] What kind of Ogg Vorbis-services you would like to have?

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You can get EAC to encode while it rips, at least in version 0.9.11. Go to EAC Options -> Tools -> On 
Extraction, start external compressors...

I think this isn't enabled by default because it requires kind of a powerful machine. On my puny P2 
375MhzOC, the encoding (shamefully, to MP3. I'm not ready to adopt vorbis just yet) thread takes up all 
available processor time when running at the same priority as the ripping thread. This means that the CD 
can't be read continuously because the computer is busy encoding, which kind of makes this useless. 
Hopefully I will upgrade soon (he he.... Athlon XP +1800, nForce-based motherboard.... :)) so I can really 
multitask in style!

Anyway, I think this is getting OT really fast. In answer to Anna Hämäläinen's original question:

>*Service shouldn't cost anything (or at least would be very cheap)for end-users. (It would be financed
>mostly by advertising)
This kind of rules out most profitable businesses, doesn't it? Web radio does come to mind as a 
possibility, though.
        
>Because there is CERTAIN IDEOLOGY BEHIND OGG VORBIS I'd like TO RESPECT IT.
If this is what you really want, then the single most important thing you have to remember is that the user 
must have a CHOICE. The user should not be forced to do what you want, but rather should be free to 
choose from a variety of options. Want a crappy web interface? Fine. Want to return to the familiar URLs 
and protocols? Ok. Want a DJ telling you what's coming, and a chance to participate in the programming? 
That's ok too.

That's what I think ogg and all the other open-source projects are about, being able to choose what product 
you use and how you use it. Respect that in your service, and you will be creating a huge value for this 
comunity.

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On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:54:27 -0500, Wilson wrote:

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>From: "Jernej Simonèiè" <jernej.simoncic at guest.arnes.si>
>To: "Nick Ludlam" <vorbis at xiph.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:01 AM
>Subject: Re[2]: [vorbis] What kind of Ogg Vorbis-services you would like to
>have?
>
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>>
>> EAC (www.exactaudiocopy.de) is even better than CDex. It uses Vorbis
>> through command-line encoder, so you can use any version you wish.
>> And it's the only (windows-based) ripper you can use for scratched
>> CDs. (but it doesn't have so nice interface as CDex)
>>
>
>EAC is great, but it's not possible to do proper tagging from the "oggenc"
>command line. Supposedly the next version of EAC will support this, but for
>the moment it's nearly useless for encoding Oggs.
>Not to mention the fact that it stops ripping while it encodes WAV->Ogg.
>That's no big deal with Monkey's Audio, since it only takes 10 seconds to
>compress. Long Oggs can take a great deal of time to compress.. Really stops
>up the process.
>It's too bad cdparanoia isn't as fast/good as EAC, or else GRIP would be an
>even better solution to the problem than it already is.
>I just don't have adequate ripping gear in my Linux boxes, unfortunately.
>
>
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