[vorbis] Lossless/lossy hybrid?

[Wilson]

Treating the difficulty of DAC design as a black box, and just using what
I've heard at AVSForum, and the price points of hardware that is
characterized as sounding "great", I would infer that DAC design is possibly
harder than landing a man on the moon.

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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] Lossless/lossy hybrid?

> Jack Moffitt wrote:
> >
> > > (Remembering all the hours spent arguing with a guy
> > > who swore that really expensive CD players were
> > > worth the extra money - apparently they can "get
> > > more information off the disc" than a normal player.
> > > And no, no amount of explaining the difference between
> > > digital and analogue would convince him, two plus two
> > > *can* equal five, if you spend enough money...)
> >
> > There's more to it than that.
> >
> > There's the quality of the DAC, and also the quality
> > of the timing.
>
> Building a good 16 bit DAC isn't too difficult.
>
> There's two issues, resolution and timing. Resolution has
> been solved by running multiple DACs in parallel and using
> bitstream techniques (not that normal DACs are terribly
> inaccurate anyway.
>
> Timing has been solved by oversampling and also with
> bitstream techniques.
>
> I don't believe any DAC is worth $10,000. $100 dollars
> should buy you the best DAC in the world using recent
> technologies, or at least, one which not even Monty can
> hear the defects in.
>
> My CD player broke last year and while it was being fixed
> I hooked up a *cheap* bitstream-based CD Walkman. I honestly
> couldn't say there was much difference in the sound. I think
> the amp/speakers/room are waaaaaay more important to sound
> quality than your choice of CD player.
>
>
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