[vorbis] mp3pro and the mp3 streaming license

Michael Smith msmith at labyrinth.net.au
Sun Jun 10 00:36:43 PDT 2001



>+ artists can distribute their music for free via the net
>+ you can have a site, distributing free samples or free albums by
>different artists for free 

Yes - if you don't in any way make money from this (that includes
other revenue sources like advertising).

>+ you'd only have to pay if you were selling MP3 tracks and albums

No. The licensing terms for selling mp3 online are more onerous, are
seperate, and have been around for longer. This new stuff has nothing
to do with selling music online - it's for streaming.

>+ music/radio stations can freely air/send out mp3 streams

If they don't make ANY money in any way, yes. How many significant
online radio stations can you say that of?

>
>What Moffit says is imo mistaken and does not make any sense.
>If what he says is true then any artist must pay 2% of his global
>income because they give away even ONE free mp3.  So rolling Stones
>put up some free clips for their fans and they get charged on
>global income?

No, you didn't read what Jack said properly.

>
>This would be ridiculous and can't ever be done or asked.
>
>It is like stated: You only are charged 2% if you set up a commercial
>music distibution via mp3. (distribution is imo still streaming + any
>other form of "distributing" music)

This is wrong. They explicitly license online distribution seperately,
and more expensively. The new charges are for streaming. ANY streaming
that brings in any money at all. So, you can freely stream stuff if you
don't charge for it AND don't make any money from doing it (which means
no advertising, etc.). That doesn't mean they have to give 2% of all
income, just income _related to_ streaming. There is absolutely nothing
unclear about that.

>
>I can understand this is could be harsh news for OGG developers that
>just saw 85% of the OGG target use, and reason for existing, been
>taken away.

Hardly. This is _exactly_ the sort of thing the ogg projects exists
to stop.

Michael

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