[vorbis] Announce: VCE v0.1.2

[Beni Cherniavsky]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Michael Smith wrote:

> At 12:43 PM 2/21/01 +0200, you wrote:
> >On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-2] Jernej Simonèiè wrote:
> >
> >> ----- Izvorno sporoèilo -----
> >> Od: David K. Gasaway <dgasaway at bigvalley.net>
> >> Za: <vorbis at xiph.org>
> >> Poslano: 16. februar 2001 6:15
> >> Zadeva: Re: [vorbis] Announce: VCE v0.1.2
> >> 
> >> | It might work okay in Winamp if you turn off the bitmap font in the
> >> | display options.  Do the same special characters display properly
> >> | when placed in an ID3 tag inside an MP3 (with the above option
> >> | off)?
> >> 
> >> I was looking at the playlist (which uses default font) anyway. Special
> >> characters in ID3 show correctly there (and in main window, too, if I
> >> disable bitmap font). However, it seems, that in_vorbis plugin doesn't
> >> process the text, and shows it just like it's written in file (¹ for example
> >> becomes Å·).
> >> 
> >
> >I checked it with a mix of English, Hebrew and Russian characters - all in
> >the same comment.  VCE handles it correctly (shows it, and the .ogg file
> >contains multibyte sequences).
> >
> >ID3, both v1 and v2, seem to store characters as is (I looked at the .mp3
> >file) - assuming default charset => if you move the file to a computer
> >with another charset, you lose :-(.  Winamp just shows 8-bit data in the
> >charset of the font you use in the playlist/main window).  This means that
> >winamp will never be able to show a mix of russian and hebrew (or anything
> >else that doesn't fit into one 8-bit codepage).
> >
> >The in-vorbis.dll plugin does nothing to the data - it just passes it to
> >winamp, which shows the multibyte data as if it was 8-bit data.  It should
> >do a down-translation to the default charset probably, otherwise one can't
> >use international characters in titles (I'll currently start commenting my
> >vorbis files with `HTITLE=...' instead of `TITLE=...' as a workaround, so
> >that the plugin won't see it and will show the filename ;-).  BTW, I've
> >just found "Added simplistic UTF-8 decoding to playlist loader" in winamp
> >3 beta report, so fixing the current plugin can be skipped.
> 
> The current plugin converts to UTF8. Warren contributed code to do
> this, and it was committed yesterday - so it'll be in beta4.
> 
Great!

> winamp3 shares nothing with winamp2, so fixing the current plugin is
> still neccesary. I don't know when winamp 3 will support vorbis at
> all.
> 
When somebody writes a plugin (I can't because I don't know any windows
programing and don't have time to learn now).  It should be easier than
for WA2 since the WA3 input plugins have cleaner interface (it's also in
C++ which is a matter of taste) and can make use of "reader" plugins e.g.
to handle http streaming.  WA3 alphas are becoming useful so it is quite
important that somebody takes this project now if we want to gain
publicity by having it ready (and hopefully included by default) when WA3
is released.

> Michael
> 
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