[vorbis] album portion of the tags request

[John Morton]

On Friday 07 December 2001 23:18, Jon Shiring wrote:
> Another alternative then is to use some CDDB or Songprint/Musicbrainz entry
> to identify the song.  I object to CDDB being in the tags because a CDDB
> entry is a computer-id and not a human id.

It's useful for correlating a track back to a particular CD it came from. 
This way I can rip a CD with RC2, tag it from freedb, tidy those tags and add 
more information, and when it comes time to upgrade to RC3/v1.0/v1.* with 
wavlets I can can feed the software any given cd from my collection, and it 
will find files that where ripped from that cd, reencode them and migrate the 
tags. Anything that saves me huge quantities of typing has got to be a Good 
Thing.

> Addendum: Anyone who proposes caching a Songprint, Musicbrainz, or other
> audio fingerprint in the file obviously doesn't understand the goals of an
> audio fingerprint: to properly identify a song without having to refer to
> tags.  To cache a fingerprint accomplishes the same thing as storing the
> title, artist, etc. in the file.  The data is no more reliable.

But it is a good idea to cache the data if the fingerprint algorithm is 
computationally intensive, and there exists some application that will need 
to place fingerprinting inside a loop of some sort.

> So as not to be criticized as being purely dismissive, my proposal is to
> earmark "identifying the CD it came from" as a feature to consider when
> planning the structured metadata.

I'd like enough information to be able to figure out what CD the ablum came 
from 95% of the time - which is something that the album field has been able 
to accomplish, in general. However, not everyone distributes there music via 
the usual channels, or even in physical form, so a 'pay me if you think the 
song is good' url field would solve that problem. 

Actually, some thoughts on that, while I'm thinking about it:

  - The field should store an URL, rather than being wedded to some
  particular payment scheme. That way you can link to Amazon, or your
  record label site, or your own site, or your paypal account - whatever you
  like.

  - The field should be distinct from any other information url, so as to
  provide the quickest path to being paid.

  - Standardising on a field earns ogg lots of smurfy goodness for being
  proactive in the keeping the artists feed department.

John

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