[vorbis] Revised Proposal for Vorbis TAG Standard

[Jonathan Walther]

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:13:31AM +0200, Tuomo Latto wrote:
>DESCRIPTION _is_ a bit vague, but ADDENDUM is a bit over the top.
>What about COMMENT? Couldn't you just use it?
>(Actually, COMMENT is even more vague but the meaning of the word is also 
>broader.)

Hm. I'm open to a vote on it.  I like ADDENDUM, but if more people
prefer COMMENT, we can switch to that.  Besides, COMMENT is 7
characters, and ADDENDUM is 8.  Lets have votes...

>However, I don't find separating PERFORMER and ENSEMBLE necessary. Why not 
>just overload the ARTIST tag (or name it PERFORMER)?
>You know, people who need to differentiate PERFORMER and ENSEMBLE should be 
>able to do it by their names.

Can you think of a tag that covers both performers and ensembles nicely?
(and NOT the ARTIST tag.  maybe the COMPOSER is the artist...).

> >MEDIA
>How about using COMMENT?

No, if we do that we'd be getting into putting structure into the
contents of the tag.  The idea is, 1 tag, one bit of information.  If
you overload a tag to contain multiple types of bits of information, it
makes more work for parsing code, and makes it conceptually messier.

> >OPUS
>So, is OPUS just a number?
>How about additional TITLE as 'Opus 3'? (Yeah, I might not just get it.)

OPUS is just a number in the normal case.  In special cases you would
write it out in full "BWV 110", or "K16" for example.

Keeping OPUS separate gives you the flexibility in the player of
deciding if you want to display the opus as part of the title or not.

> >LYRICIST
> >AUTHOR
>There's a certain conceptual type of ambiguousness here. I don't find it 
>reasonable to differentiate LYRICIST and AUTHOR. AUTHOR will suffice, 
>LYRICIST is not really needed.

Not so.  An author may write the original text as prose, then a
librettist may "adapt" it for the purpose of the musical work.  So both
author and lyricist are needed.  And if its a song, use lyricist, if
there is spoken text, use author.  If the text is half-sung half-spoken
its a judgement call, but I would use author.  What if it is a poem
embedded in a prose novel?  Then even if the poem is sung I think I
might still use author... but noone could be faulted for using lyricist.
(lots of fantasy novels contain embedded lyric poems).

>GENRE should not be limited to any selection of genres. In that case is 
>TYPE needed? Couldn't you just use one more GENRE tag?

Symphony is not a "genre".  It is a "form" of work, within the
"classical" genre.

Thanks for your comments.  They are appreciated.

Jonathan

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