[vorbis] Vorbis native Ripper-decoder-encoder

[David K. Gasaway]

On 4 Aug 2001, at 0:10, Gregory Maxwell wrote:

> After discussing downloaded mp3 quality with a 'regular joe', a while back:
> I came to the conclusion that the perceived poor quality MP3's downloaded
> from the Internet came from the presence of all the garbage encoders out
> there. Users who are savvy enough to care about quality can comprehend the
> bitrate field as an indicator of quality, but they have trouble coping with
> a metadataless cause of poor quality (varying encoders) and were dismayed
> when their 160kbit/sec downloaded file sounded like it was underwater.

This reminds me of my first experiences with MP3.  When I was 
first learning of MP3 about six or seven years ago, I was a 
computer science major in college.  And although I had taken 
classes in coding and information theory (amoung other things), I 
still had a hard time understanding how different encoders could 
produce varying results at the same bitrate, yet still fall within the 
same specification.  My naivete feels shameful now, but illustrates 
Gregory's point well.

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