[vorbis] RC2 worse than RC1 and Beta4

Bacchus 13 bacchus13 at zdnetonebox.com
Mon Aug 20 15:12:40 PDT 2001



There seems to be another multiple format test @192kbps on r3mix.  If
you got better luck than I, you could download the files from:
 
http://66.96.216.160/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=c&action=display&num=998264509

R3mix Forum (r3mix.net/forum or cd-rw.org/forum or r3mixforum.cjb.net)-Technical
issues, Tests & Experiments-'Archive quality' test with other codecs
(192kbps)

On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Attila Padar wrote:

Attila> I know more filters/maskings reduce the bitrate, gives more
Attila> dynamic and frequency range, but maybe we lose some sharp/nice
Attila> sounds on this way.

Yes, I agree with what Attila says: RC2 doesn't sound as sharp as LAME.
 However, even beta4 didn't maintain the original sound at high notes,
neither.  Taking whether LAME or Vorbis is still remained as the matter
of tase, I think, though.  I can't tell which is better in all the aspects.
 (After beta 4, I just simply compare Ogg and LAME and take which I like).

 
On Sun 19 Aug 2001 Gian-Carlo Pascutto <gcp at sjeng.org> wrote:

Gian> :)  I had to fiddle with it in my tuned mode because I didn't like
Gian> the results.

Well, what you meant was only masking part, then.  Sorry for the dummy
question.
 
Attila> And I don't want to argue with you/developers,
Attila> you know better what you do...

Gian> I twiddle with numbers in the vauge illusion I know
Gian> what I'm doing ;)

Developers know theories but we know what we hear.  Some theories are
convincing but the others are not.  We ignorant mortals only can be subjective.

Well, I am sorry but I do not seem to reach the files.  :-(  Someone
who has got better ears?

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