[vorbis] Games...

[Joe Soroka]

>>instead of waiting for some volunteer to do it 
>>for free, why don't you convince EA to put someone 
>>on the task? 
>
> I'm not waiting for any volunteers; I am planning on 
> doing it myself. I just don't want to do it until I 
> have some reason to believe that what I do will not have
> to be redone again later after it changes. 

First, let me say sorry for the tone of my response.  I 
didn't mean to sound confrontational.  I only said that 
you shouldn't wait for someone else to do it for free 
because that was the gist I got from your original 
post.  "The day Vorbis is ready with a decent level 
of first-cut optimization is the day I start incorporating 
it"  I just read that as "The day the existing Vorbis 
developers are ready with a decent..."

> Why don't I "convince EA to put someone on the task"? 
> I have convinced EA (well, Maxis) and that person is 
> me right now, though we have others that could do it 
> too. I am simply more motivated than they are at this 
> point. 

Excellent - sorry for jumping to conclusions.

> In actuality, Maxis sound programming is totally 
> separate from EA Sports sound programming which is 
> separate from Westwood sound programming..

Yeah... I just meant that EA in general (and all other
game developers) would benefit from any free alternative 
to mp3.  That's why I said "convince EA" and not 
"convince Maxis."  The cost to Maxis of paying someone 
to optimize vorbis might not equal the savings vs some 
expensive alternative, but EA-wide the savings would 
surely be more than enough.

>> more than one programmer's salary in licensing fees. 
>
> As for EA paying FhG licensing fees, AFAIK, we don't do 
> that. I personally would rather use no MP3s than pay 
> licensing fees for it, and in fact that's what we've 
> done. I think other studios within EA have taken a 
> similar approach.

Ah... I see. Well, then... my reasoning just went out 
the window.  Even more kudos to Maxis then for devoting 
resources to improving vorbis.

Joe Soroka.
Inphinity Interactive
where the games begin...

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