[Vorbis-dev] Codec Parameter for Ogg media types

Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves justivo at gmail.com
Sun Apr 13 15:20:30 PDT 2008


We interrupt your regularly scheduled program to bring you the following issue.

RFC3534bis is on hold.  I have addressed all feedback from Mr
Westerlund, except for the following:

From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund[at]ericsson[dot]com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:55:28 +0200
Subject: Re: Updated 3534bis (was Re: Request for review of Ogg Media
Types: video/ogg, audio/ogg, application/ogg)
To: Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves <justivo[at]gmail[dot]com>

>>> 2. Usage of RFC 4281 "codecs" parameter? It seems reasonably to include
>>> these parameters. Any issues with adding the parameter? And if not, how
>>> do you want to describe the content of the file format, what type of
>>> identifier space for the different content?
>>
>> We also discussed this prior to writing the draft.  The conclusion was
>> that, while Ogg can encapsulate anything, most implementations expect
>> only Xiph own codecs, so the three media types specified for each type
>> of content is in theory enough to help implementations know what they
>> are dealing with.  That not to mention that Skeleton already informs
>> parsers of what is contained in Ogg, be the data served with or
>> without media types.
>>
>> We would like to avoid further complexity unless it is actually necessary.
>
> I have to agree this is a difficult call. But there clearly are systems
> that would like to determine what to do with Ogg file without having to
> read the actual file. That include server side email filtering and
> transcoding. I would recommend that you actually introduce this as it
> helps in system where it is not desirable to download a file unless it
> actually is usable. An soon anyone starts including a new codec or
> content into ogg files the utility of this parameter grows. So I think
> it comes down to if you think if it has any potential to be a commonly
> used format where additional formats will desirable.
>
> I (personally) will not insist but I think it would be good.

We need to reach a consensus on this issue and, if possible, soon.  Comments?

RFC 4281, which describes codec parameters can be found here[1].

-Ivo

[1] http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4281.txt


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