[vorbis-dev] RFC draft for Vorbis over RTP
Monty
xiphmont at xiph.org
Wed May 26 17:50:14 PDT 2004
On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 01:17:45AM +0200, Jack Moffitt wrote:
> > This certainly simplifies things in practice with in-band headers
> > or header request over http. Seems a bit of a wash if there's a separate
> > header stream.
>
> Not really. If you are multicasting, the extra stream doesn't waste
> bandwidth unless people are pulling on it afaik. So it's efficient. On
> unicast, you might as well use a reliable transport since that will be
> faster.
>
> So I think the full idea goes something like:
>
> Add a codebook id header to each rtp packet. This 'id' would be
> incremented each time the source restarted if it had to switch
> codebooks (or if it can't know, increment always).
>
> Vorbis audio is sent as in the draft, or however in an RTP stream by
> itself.
>
> Headers can either be gotten by reliable means (HTTP probably) or from a
> separate header rtp stream, on which the headers are broadcast over and
> over. For multicast, the separate RTP stream is recommended. For
> unicast, reliable transport via HTTP is recommended.
>
> Metadata happens in a separate channel. I'm not sure whether this is
> something RTCP should be used for (probably not), or if we should just
> make a metadata rtp stream (is there not one of these already?).
This is the original design as jack and I discussed it years ago, BTW.
It's overall the conceptually cleanest and easiest to extend to
unforseen uses in the future. It's also more complex from a code
standpoint... although once that code is written, likely no more
expensive to use.
Monty
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