[vorbis-dev] RFC draft for Vorbis over RTP
Tor-Einar at Jarnbjo.de
Tue May 25 13:01:54 PDT 2004
Conrad Parker wrote:
>try searching for "vorbis rtp draft" at http://search.gmane.org/
>you'll find everything relevent from these lists, plus newsgroups
>etc. ... even this very thread we're having right now!
Ok, so what are you seeing, which I am not able to find there either? A
resume of the articles found there since last summer would be:
- July 2003: A discussion around version 02 as a preparation for the AVT
meeting in Vienna. Magnus Westerlund pointed out a lot of problems in
version 02, which were acknowledged by Phil Kerr. As I understand it,
these issues were corrected in version 03.
- Early October 2003: Linus Walleij started a discussion on
<http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.ogg.vorbis.devel> about the
draft state. He writes "that they (IETF) were not impressed by the
previous draft" and Jack Moffits adds a comment about the variable
codebooks: "Since they (again IETF) didn't think about this possibility
way back when, some feel (Ross Finlayson in particular) that our way is
To me, this starts to sound as a political argument...
- End of October 2003: Version 03 is merely listed in the agenda from
the AVT meeting in Minneapolis. There are no discussions around it or
any references to what AVT disliked and any reasons for it not to be
- March 2004: Also just a brief mention of version 03 in the agenda and
minutes from the AVT meeting in Seoul:
"*draft*-kerr-avt-*vorbis*-*rtp*-03.txt needs review. Please comment to
the mailing list." (Magnus Westerlund)
After this, there was just a question about the draft state from a
French guy a week ago and the discussion I started now.
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