[vorbis-dev] I've pulled the plug on viewcvs

[Ralph Giles]

On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 08:01 pm, Monty wrote:

> .) viewcvs is useful; never said it wasn't (just don't use it myself).
> Ralph: If you want to put the time into debugging the problem, feel
> free.  I didn't clearly recall who had originally installed it and I
> didn't want it being blindly reenbaled; folks were having trouble even
> connecting last night.  Whether it was a break due to some other
> upgrade, a DDoS or just a spider innocently running amock, it had to
> stop.

Sure, that's fine. I'll see if I can come up with something to act as a 
break, probably some combination of robots.txt and cgi process 
limiting. Looking at the logs, the particular ip address responsible 
didn't ask for robots.txt so if it was a spider it was a particularly 
badly-behaved one. someone's recursive wget seems just as likely.

> I've had sleep and the morning coffee.  I'll be less irritable and make
> clearer points.

Thanks, I appreciate the calmer tone.

> .) In terms of ultimate admin responsibility, it's traditionally been
> myself and jack on two machines. When we went to the new space,
> Shredder and Motherfish-I became the single Motherfish-II.  I don't
> have time to spare to be the ultimate admin when things break.  Our
> core development is badly bottlenecked on me as it is.

I've always felt shared responsibility was a better solution to robust 
system administration. That way no one person is a bottleneck for fixes 
or changes, and generally works well when everyone's familiar with the 
setup. That does entail a certain amount of documentation and 
coordination overhead. The root changelog we've started is a great idea 
for this; I think it would have helped both of us if it had gone back 
to the viewcvs and tmda installs. Anyway, it's under this philosophy 
that I've been trying to help, especially to allow you to delegate the 
parts you're not personally interested in. I'm sorry it's been 
frustrating. As you say, your time is much more valuable for 
development.

Cheers,
  -r

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