BTW, to those interested (email being a clumsy way to begin coordination): Vorbis doesn't have it's own IRC channel, but I'm around on the #mp3encoder IRC channel (at irc.openprojects.net). If you want to tool on this, drop by. Monty --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Ogg project homepage: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/